Joe Rogan has COVID

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, diamondpenguin said:

@Leo Gura I am grateful for your existence and what you do for the world. Everyone thinks Rogan is so smart, but he's really just a comedian on steroids. No real wisdom, but only because he did so much psychedelics.

I don't really know who considers Joe Rogan to be smart. He's extremely popular. That's very different from being smart.

People confuse popularity with wisdom.

Rogan is not dumb. He has many nuanced takes. But some of this libertarian-esque positions are dumb.

Given Rogan's reach, hundreds of people will needlessly die because he spreads baseless vaccine skepticism. If Rogan publicly took the vaccine millions of people would take it too.

[UNZARI]

@Leo Gura it makes me sad when people take the “everything is a scam by the government” approach thinking it’s smart and rebellious. I questioned if covid was real in the beginning cause I wasn’t living in the city until someone at my workplace died, that’s when I realized you have to think about both sides. Wish they did the same not everything is a hoax 

[diamondpenguin]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I don't really know who considers Joe Rogan to be smart. He's extremely popular. That's very different from being smart.

People confuse popularity with wisdom.

Rogan is not dumb. He has many nuanced takes. But some of this libertarian-esque positions are dumb.

Given Rogan's reach, hundreds of people will needlessly die because he spreads baseless vaccine skepticism. If Rogan publicly took the vaccine millions of people would take it too.

Yeah, he really does take for granted that he is public role model, doesn't he. And what it might be that makes people think he is so smart(even though he has average intelligence) is because of his unbiased interviewing that he does which might mesmerize people. Obviously this is just a one layer façade that doesn't synergize with the rest of his psyche.  Like what you said in the stage yellow video it makes him part yellow. What he needs to do is take responsibility for the fact that he's a public role model, and use his power to make a positive impact. 

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, diamondpenguin said:

he really does take for granted that he is public role model, doesn't he.

He knows he's a role-model.

It's just that he gets stuck in his own perspective, as we all do.

[Willie]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

If Rogan publicly took the vaccine millions of people would take it too.

Nah, they’d probably turn on him and call him ”Biden’s Bootlicker” or “Pfizer Fanboy”. There’s a lot of incentive for him to double down against vaccination.

[diamondpenguin]

15 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He knows he's a role-model.

It's just that he gets stuck in his own perspective, as we all do.

At least it helps his mind operate better I guess, if he operates from what everyone else thinks he should do, he would become a ditz with no spine. It really helps to have that solid stage red foundation. Whatever helps you sleep at night. 

11 minutes ago, Willie said:

Nah, they’d probably turn on him and call him ”Biden’s Bootlicker” or “Pfizer Fanboy”. There’s a lot of incentive for him to double down against vaccination.

Lol, that's only because his followers have their brains switched off half the time. 

[Extreme Z7]

Late Show with Stephen Colbert made fun of him lol.
You know you're doing something really dumb if even they make fun of you. Not that I don't like their show, they just tend to appeal to more mainstream audiences.

 

[Inliytened1]

What's surprising is he scrambles and has no fear to take all of this other stuff but didn't wanna risk a vaccine? Odd to me...

[hoodrow trillson]

14 hours ago, Johnny Galt said:

@Eternity

Why does everyone keep repeating - "that's for horses!!!!!!!!"  

Why does this keep recurring?

Maybe, just maybe, it's because most media outlets, they are propaganda.."

there’s a freaking horse on the box 

[Johnny Galt]

@hoodrow trillson Yes, that's because it's used for animals, but it's ALSO used for humans which people keep missing.

[hoodrow trillson]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Galt said:

@hoodrow trillson Yes, that's because it's used for animals, but it's ALSO used for humans which people keep missing.

It also says “for oral use in horses only” on the freaking box

[Johnny Galt]

@hoodrow trillson wow, smart. Yes, your correct, but what about the following:

"Ivermectin is a Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved antiparasitic drug that is used to treat several neglected tropical diseases, including onchocerciasis, helminthiases, and scabies.1 It is also being evaluated for its potential to reduce the rate of malaria transmission by killing mosquitoes that feed on treated humans and livestock.2 For these indications, ivermectin has been widely used and is generally well tolerated.1,3 Ivermectin is not approved by the FDA for the treatment of any viral infection."

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/

"Ivermectin proved to be even more of a ‘Wonder drug’ in human health, improving the nutrition, general health and wellbeing of billions of people worldwide ever since it was first used to treat Onchocerciasis in humans in 1988."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

Do better troll

 

[hoodrow trillson]

1 minute ago, Johnny Galt said:

@hoodrow trillson wow, smart. Yes, your correct, but what about the following:

"Ivermectin is a Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved antiparasitic drug that is used to treat several neglected tropical diseases, including onchocerciasis, helminthiases, and scabies.1 It is also being evaluated for its potential to reduce the rate of malaria transmission by killing mosquitoes that feed on treated humans and livestock.2 For these indications, ivermectin has been widely used and is generally well tolerated.1,3 Ivermectin is not approved by the FDA for the treatment of any viral infection."

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/therapies/antiviral-therapy/ivermectin/

"Ivermectin proved to be even more of a ‘Wonder drug’ in human health, improving the nutrition, general health and wellbeing of billions of people worldwide ever since it was first used to treat Onchocerciasis in humans in 1988."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

Do better troll

 

Now you’re just throwing propaganda at me!  Just like the media.  

[Johnny Galt]

@hoodrow trillson :P

[Vladimir]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Unfortunately unless Rogan gets seriously hospitalized all his fans will just take this as evidence that they should avoid getting vaccinated.

Criminally irresponsible.

You don't know what covid is. How do you know covid is not an act of love for the greater good of all?

[Carl-Richard]

51 minutes ago, Vladimir said:

You don't know what covid is. How do you know covid is not an act of love for the greater good of all?

Differentiate between relative and Absolute good.

[ArcticGong]

I think that the society which Rogan operates in is ripe for “alternative facts” or “conspiracy theories” and he’s doped up brain attracts sensational stories. The media business is failing while guys like Rogan stood ready at rebound position to take over, unknowingly though. Rogan wouldn’t consider himself as news outlet or media for that matter. However, he plays usually an antagonistic role against mainstream media and undermines established journalism. Finally, I usually like him and some of his guest he manage to bring to his show.

Edited September 3, 2021 by ArcticGong
Grammar

[fortifyacacia3]

Not that it was surprising that Ivermectin does not treat covid, (or Z-packs) but every study in favor of it is falling apart. 

Watch Bret Weinstein's (leading vax skeptic) fragile new fallout with Rebel Wisdoms David Fuller. Brets misinformation is being put under proper criticism. 

Watch Ivermectin's lead advocate and researcher get dissected as she deflects

hand-washing of poorly conducted studies 

 

[Opo]

@fortifyacacia3 Thanks for the share. 

Didn't know it was this bad. 

[Purple Man]

I know that educated discrepancy can be easily mistaken in such a hot topic. But I am going to say a few things about this. Only facts, because I don´t care about opinions. If somebody wants to reply, I´ll gladly read his/her comments, but if he/she only has words they heared in the TV to share, such as "negationist", just breath and don´t say it. I´ve dedicated thousands of hours since March 2020 to study the data, science, and every bit of interesting information, apart from  being in touch with highly respected specialists. I mean, REAL specialists. 

1/ I am astonished at people saying he´s an idiot because he did not take the vaccine so he got the Covid as a well deserved effect... Vaccines don´t prevent infection, don´t avoid transmission to the unvaccinated or to other vaccinated individuals. Actually, as the percentage of vaccinated population grows, the obvious effect is that most (by far) of the new infected are already vaccinated. In some places in my country, where 70% are vaccinated, basically almost every infection happened in a vaccinated individual. Vaccines offer immunity, not total protection (no, they are not synonimous). That means that it creates a defensive team to help the immune system in the duty of recognizing and attacking antigens, so the infection in frail people might be softer. That´s its strenght.

2/ The infection Fatality Rate, even in the worst moments of the 1ST, 2ND waves, was as low as 0,03% in ages 0-70, which the media "confused" with Case Fatality Rate or even raw mortality for the sake of taking advantage of general panic. Up until 45/50, the IFR was similar-lower than that of the flu. So calm down, guys. For a healthy immune system, the infection of Sars-CoV-2 is probably never going to even become COVID (again, no, infection from "Sars..." and "Covid" are not synonimous), and when it does, it  most likely  feel like a flu or even milder.  Sick, frail old people are the aim of Covid in a extremely high percentage. For most, there is nothing to worry about. These are facts, not opinions. 

3/ No, Covid has not killed millions. The first thing to check is the way countries tag deaths as "death BY Covid". It has been a total fraud. That does not mean Covid does not exist. It means that it has been grossly exaggerated, because the media know that 99% of people are too lazy to just ask how you enter the "Covid list". For you to have a fair idea:

in the UK, if you ever have a positive PCR (we could talk A LOT about PCR´s, but it´s not the right moment), you join a "Covid positive list". If you die by whatever cause (yes, even suicide or getting strangled by a thug) your name gets cross-checked. If you appear in the "Covid positive list", you enter the official "death BY Covid" list. As two scientists discovered it and were shocked by the manipulation, they complied. The aftermath was that the health authorities kept the same method, but restricting it to 28 days after the positive PCR. Which means if you die by whatever cause (cancer, stroke, getting run over by a bus) within 28 days after the +PCR, you enter the "death BY Covid list". What´s the name for this, if not scam? Especially when we know that  a group of scientists complained that if they kept this same accounting system after general vaccination, people would stop believing in their efficacy, because the "body count" number wouldn´t go down after vaccination, as any death with a +PCR would still be considered as "Covid death". 

You might say "well, this is just in the UK". No. You guys are mostly from the USA. Well, I don´t know how you did not check the stats of your own country, because I did it, for the sake of knowledge. The CDC stats clearly show that only 6% of the "Covid deaths" are purely so. It is explicitely written in the official site. Also, you can see that the reportedly official "Covid deaths" figures is actually the sum of flu+pneumonia+Covid, while the "Covid only" is that 6 %. These are facts.

In Germany or Spain it is even worse. I live in Spain, and it was just pure madness. Every-fucking-body who died in 2020 in a hospital was tagged as Covid when there was a +PCR (which is crazy enough by itself...), but when we didn´t even have enough PCR´s (first half of the year), anybody who died with  respiratory difficulties was a "Covid death" (who dies without breathing difficulties?) I have three close personal cases that are perfect examples of it.
In Germany it is stated that 80% of the reported figures are actually people who died many weeks after the +PCR. 
Italy? One of the main scientific advisors of the government recognized that if he had to do it again, only 12% would have been tagged as "Covid deaths"
This has been going on around the world, and it might come down as one of the biggest manipulations of all time. Those scientists and experts I talked with are both scared and astonished that they could have pulled this off. Again, this does not mean negation of a disease that can kill frail people. It is a total negation of the official narrative, which is an insult to our intelligences. And I say this after reading dozens of papers and absorbed thousands of pages of good information. Not "official", not "alternative", but good, serious information.

4/ Regarding vaccines: Yesterday I talked with one of the foremost experts in Spain. He is TOTALLY for them. Totally. And I don´t have anything but mad respect for his knowledge and intelligence. If he says they are working, they are. But even here the manipulation is unbearable. Why?

Well, the UK health authorities and the Spanish ones have already stated that all those reported deaths (thousands) as a side effect of vaccines are not the direct effect of vaccination, but of the frail immune system of the deceassd, which are old and have comorbidities. So, if you die at age 88, with a positive PCR plus cancer and poor general health, you died BY Covid. If you die at age 88, with full vaccination, cancer and poor general health, you die because you are old and frail. If they used this second method with the "Covid death" tagging, we would have never ever heared about such thing as a disease called "Covid". The fact that this does not enrage intelligent people is beyond me. 

5/My stance on vaccines? Yes, they seem to have worked fairly well with the old and frail.That´s great news. Great.  The long-term consequences? We´ll have to wait. It is true, and I know this for a fact, that the concentration of spike protein in marrow, liver, ovaries, etc., hours after the vaccines who rely on messenger ARN (Pfizer, Moderna) is extremely high and worrying. Again, that is a fact. So as my health is excellent, I have nothing to worry about Covid, and no, I won´t get vaccinated. That does not mean I am anti-vaxx. I have more than my fair amount of them, and I even shot more than the usual ones. But there is no objective need to do it except you have previous risk factors that could turn Covid into a serious disease, even deadly. And vaccinating kids is close to Humanity crimes. And yes, "my" experts all agree.

Oh, and in spite of blindly attacking anyone who has a good reason to not get the jab, I suggest you to read the scientific report the english government requested to a infectious disease experts organization: there it clearly states that (I´m speaking from memory), 95% of the Covid-related deceased will be fully vaccinated individuals who could not stand the vaccine. You won´t see this in the news, will you? 

6/So, guys, things are not black and white. Study the case as seriously as you meditate.