5 Meo Dmt First Trip

[ElvisN]

I've been doing deep self development work for a year now, and have reduced my defence mechanisms and ego considerably.

I'm interested in enlightenment.

I've never done a psychedelic before, and I want to try 5 MeO DMT. My question is, is it safe for me to try a small 5 MeO dosage without having done psychedelics before?

[ElvisN]

@Snick Thanks for the reply.

I had the same thought in mind. I should start with mushrooms, peyote or even LSD, then move up to DMT and 5 MeO DMT.

[Azrael]

4 hours ago, ElvisN said:

My question is, is it safe for me to try a small 5 MeO dosage without having done psychedelics before?

No, it's not safe. It's stupid. Do the others first and learn how to handle such shifts in consciousness. And even then you won't be ready to do MeO. But what you are wanting to do is trying to fly with light speed through the universe which no one can tell you how to do, but you are refusing to take a regular flying session. Go the whole way. MeO can potentially harm you if you do it wrong or misinterpret it.

[Dodo]

20 minutes ago, Azrael said:

No, it's not safe. It's stupid. Do the others first and learn how to handle such shifts in consciousness. And even then you won't be ready to do MeO. But what you are wanting to do is trying to fly with light speed through the universe which no one can tell you how to do, but you are refusing to take a regular flying session. Go the whole way. MeO can potentially harm you if you do it wrong or misinterpret it.

This makes my ego be all like: yeah right, i can accept anything, ive read the power of now. Nothing can touch me yo

[ElvisN]

On 12/2/2016 at 4:46 PM, Snick said:

Yeah! 

Well, remember this, most important, trust your self and intuition!

If you are interested in building healthy muscles, you go to a gym forum, they will only want you become one of those monsters you see at the gym, they've gain nothing but muscles in their life!

The same with a consciousness forum! People will tell you that even several decades of meditation/consciousness work , will not even give you a glimpse of enlightenment! You must also find a toad near Colorado river, that's the only way! 

Don't get me wrong, this might be the very best forum out there on those topics, but put things in perspective! 

Do some consciousness work, have a little bit of psychedelic experiences, you don't need to go all the way! 

Have som physical exercise as well!

Take care of you friends, be a good listener!

Serve somebody in life! (you don't what to miss that experience!) 

Be a good lover! 

Laugh, smile and put an easy going attitude to life! Don't put all your eggs in one basket, there is so mush to do and see, pick a little from everything!

And in the end, life is easy and fun! Even without that Colorado toad!

@Snick You're right. I shouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. Thanks.

[ElvisN]

On 12/2/2016 at 5:33 PM, Azrael said:

No, it's not safe. It's stupid. Do the others first and learn how to handle such shifts in consciousness. And even then you won't be ready to do MeO. But what you are wanting to do is trying to fly with light speed through the universe which no one can tell you how to do, but you are refusing to take a regular flying session. Go the whole way. MeO can potentially harm you if you do it wrong or misinterpret it.

@Azrael I want to fly with light speed!

But I'll try going the whole way. I'll take the regular flying session.

[Azrael]

1 hour ago, ElvisN said:

I'll take the regular flying session.

Wise decision. Also, there is no rush here. It's not like you do one hit of MeO and all of your problems vanish, you are God and nothing matters anymore. It needs time and it will bring up all of your unconscious shit you are suppressing very fast. Be sure that you can handle this. I think most can't. It's just too fast and too deep. Start with shrooms. If you do low dosages and then high dosages of shrooms you'll have the most epic experiences from which you can learn a lot. If you can handle 5-7 grams of shrooms (please don't start that high), then maybe try some regular DMT. If you can stand this, you've at least mastered the flying lesson.

[ElvisN]

@Azrael I think one of the reasons I want to jump is because I feel like I need to make progress ASAP.

My main motivation to do 5 MeO is to release all the suppressed emotions and hidden assumptions. This is what I feel rushed to do. Which I think is a problem because it is not healthy. I'm working on that currently.

I might be wrong, but I think that I would ultimately be able to handle the emotions that will come up during thr 5 MeO trip. I've gone through much in terms of releasing baggage, and although I know I've not released it 100%, I do know that most of it is gone.

I think I would be able to deal with the trip.

What do you think @Azrael ?

[ElvisN]

@Azrael Oh, another reason I forgot to mention. I also want to do 5 MeO partly because getting shrooms will be hectic. Getting 5 MeO will be easier.

I wish I could get both, but their prices and my limited finances don't allow it.

So I can only choose one for now.

Edited December 5, 2016 by ElvisN

[Azrael]

3 hours ago, ElvisN said:

What do you think @Azrael ?

If you want to deal with emotions do shrooms. They'll do a very good job with that. I do shrooms myself for integrating. It's a good choice.

3 hours ago, ElvisN said:

So I can only choose one for now.

Yeah, but if you are in a rush, you still don't get it. Doing MeO won't heal all of your issues over night. It's a process (as with anything else) that takes weeks and months. And it's just very risky to do 5-MeO when you have no experiences with psychedelics. Because you have no idea what you are talking about. Not even remotely. And that's risky. So be wise here.

Anyways, why are you trying to get rid of your negative emotions so fast? It will take a good 5 years at least to work through all of that, even with tons of meditation, consciousness work and psychedelics. It's not that you'll transform over night.

[ElvisN]

@Azrael I agree that I should try other psychedelics first. It is risky to do 5 MeO without prior experience.

However, I disagree that it takes a good 5 years to work through all the negative emotions. I'm not saying this is true for everyone. I feel like my progress has been very fast. I've been healing literally every single day for the last 6 months. Each week I feel like a different person. There were days I woke up feeling like one person and slept feeling like I was someone different. My sense of self has changed profoundly, and is continually changing. I feel increasingly autonomous, free, present, and peaceful. I'm sure my rate of progress is not the norm - how could it be? I've seen no one discover what I have discovered. Maybe 2 or 3 individuals.

I have a direct path of dissolving my negative emotions. I know I'll eventually get to a place where I have no more negative emotions. Right now I'm dealing with the subtle ones cause I've already dealt with the obvious ones.

If I can dissolve a greater amount of emotions in a shorter period of time, I want to do that. That is why I'm interested in psychedelics. 

Edited December 6, 2016 by ElvisN