Ray

On The Limits Of The Forgiveness (?)

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Hey guys, 

So, I’ve just finished a book (the sunflower on the possibilities and limits of forgiveness by simon wiesenthal) and I have doubts regarding what is the answer to the main question of the book: 

Here’s the true story with the dilemma: 

1942, World War 2, Leopold, an 23 year old SS (an important military soldier of the nazi empire) on his death bed tell his life - full of remorses- with a deep sincerity and a deep awareness of his wrong behaviour to a jew prisoner of a lager: he want to be forgive from this jew that he never saw before for all the inhuman act and crimes that he committed in his life. The jew docent’ give him the forgiveness. 

However, during all his life the jew has doubts regarding his answer to that question, and he interrogate friends, colleagues, philosopher and important people for understanding if the answer he gave was right. His inner wisdom/instinct lead him even search for the mother of the young SS and meet her at her house for speak (in the conversation however he doesn’t reveal what the crimes that the SS had done to the mother because he thought that it would just destroy the little happiness that this woman had, he just reveal that he’s a jew; so he says just the half of the truth). 

So the question is: 

Did Simon, the jew, had to forgive the SS or not? 

 

My answer is: 

No one but Simon’s highest self/instinct/inner wisdom can answer to this question. 

However I don’t feel satisfied with it, so I would like to know what do you guys think about: what a non-duality guy and therefore an actualised person would do in such situation? what should Simon had to do? 

 

Thanks for the answer :)

(Sorry for the english… ahah) 

 

 

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@Ray From a non-dual perspective forgiveness is a joke. There's noone to forgive, noone doing the forgiving and nothing to forgive.
From a dual perspective - well you're not doing the forgiving thing for HIM you're doing it for yourself. If you don't forgive, you are going to be carrying the weight of that judgement around for the entirety of your life. If you do forgive, aka let go completely, you liberate yourself from the weight.


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I think mostly forgiving is relevant as a social Thing so it could just be appropriate in some situations.

But generally its of Course something you cook up in your mind to some kind of psychological burden. So that belongs to the identification/psychological stuff.

you do not know if it reaches the receipient in the intended way. He might say "shut your mouth" so what? You have done your best to solve your own psychological entanglement with that issue...

 

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