Adeptus Psychonautica new clickbait leo-bashing video

[taotemu]

5 minutes ago, Consilience said:

Leo’s never claimed the goal is to transcend, but to understand. If you watch more you’ll know this. Furthermore, there is the possibility for transcendence, at least degrees of transcendence. Buddhism 101, classic spiritual model, is about transcending suffering.

The only way to fully express one’s humanity is by transcending one’s humanity. Transcendence is not a denial, as you seem to implicitly imply, but is instead a full embracing of the actuality of whatever is true. You are not a human, you are pure consciousness. In order to actualize your humanity or “to be a human” you need to be grounded in what is true. How could you live with honesty, integrity, compassion or wisdom if you’re operating from delusion, self deception, and more directly, lies?

This work is about Self Actualization. To actualize who you are, you first must know what you are. 

 

I agree completely.  The whole point of enlightenment is to stop delusion, self deception and operate with complete authenticity of who we really are.

[wildflower]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

if we want to play relative games yes, but in the absolute sense there are no "many cases"..that is being imagined.  you are God.  There are no others.  there is only you.

No this isn't playing relative games, this is playing the game at the level you are currently at, and using langauge as such, anything else is misleading delusion.

In the absolute sense, language is pointless and doesn't exist, so until you/we are at the absolute level, lets use appropriate language so that it isn't misleading or deluding each other? surely that makes more sense

[The0Self]

10 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

if we want to play relative games yes, but in the absolute sense there are no "many cases"..that is being imagined.  you are God.  There are no others.  there is only you.

Yes but hopefully you can see I was not talking on that level. That’s like saying there’s only one user on this forum: you. Well, if you admit of there even being a forum (or enlightenment as something that can happen) in the first place, then there are “many cases” of users (or journeys). For instance Inliytened1 and The0Self, just to name 2 forum users...

You’re ultimately correct but my point was basically “that goes for everything” not just Leo.

Edited August 8, 2021 by The0Self

[taotemu]

16 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@taotemu if you are interested in straight up Truth or Awakeking these videos are for you.  Take the idea of a Leo out if it because if you go deep enough into Absolute Truth you wil become directly conscious that you created him to wake up. That is the total truth.  Whether you want to hear it is an entire other matter.   

Can you see how problematic this use of language is?  It sounds completely delusional.  Leo is just a guy.  We don't create other people.  We can recognize the unity of the divine and see it reflected back at us in others. 

[Inliytened1]

@wildflower right now the trap @AdeptusPsychonautica has fallen in is getting caught up with Leo.  To break him out of it we need to be on the Absolute level in its entirety.  He needs to realize that Leo was invented by him completely. The problem is he is glued to materliasm and it is beyond possibility that Leo could be imaginary 

[Goldzilla]

Well, they both exagerated, so what? 

I'm here because of this playing ground about Spirituality. The community, the live debates, the imperfection, the room for growth. And well, Leo Gura talked about meditation in a video years ago, when i did not know what that means. 

[wildflower]

4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@wildflower right now fhe trap @AdeptusPsychonautica has fallen in is getting caught up with Leo.  To break him out of it we need to be on the Absolute level in its entirety.  He needs to realize that Leo was invented by him completely. The problem is he is a materliast and it is beyond possibility that Leo could be imaginary 

No I vehemently disagree with your approach. 

You're being deluded about how to deal and interact with other humans, it's causing confusion, disconnect and division. 

Here's a question, why when you get to the absolute level, do the rest of us not meet you there? It's just your own experience. Why don't you goto the Absolute level for Adeptus and show him/you yourself....

None of what you say is applicable at all to this relative domain we all are currently existing in. Even Leo called Conor regarding him dragging his brand to the gutter, you need to wake up 

Edited August 8, 2021 by wildflower

[Tim R]

8 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@wildflower right now the trap @AdeptusPsychonautica has fallen in is getting caught up with Leo.  To break him out of it we need to be on the Absolute level in its entirety.  He needs to realize that Leo was invented by him completely. The problem is he is glued to materliasm and it is beyond possibility that Leo could be imaginary 

@Inliytened1 I really don't think this is the right approach...

Telling people who already think that what you're saying is completely deluded that "you have created them to wake you up" sounds like total and utter lunacy to such a person. Whether it is lunacy or not is a different issue. 

The right thing to do is to stop fixating on Leo as a person - but in such a way, that Leo remains?

Edited August 8, 2021 by Tim R

[diamondpenguin]

@AdeptusPsychonautica you know what, theres something you lack, and that's RESPECT. Let @Leo Gura make whatever videos he wants without you giving him shit for it. Have some "RESPECT" for people how they are. 

[The0Self]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@wildflower right now the trap @AdeptusPsychonautica has fallen in is getting caught up with Leo.  To break him out of it we need to be on the Absolute level in its entirety.  He needs to realize that Leo was invented by him completely. The problem is he is glued to materliasm and it is beyond possibility that Leo could be imaginary 

That’s assuming 1. he’s at a lower level of understanding (correct) and 2. this is a circumstance conducive to his mind being opened enough to break through to a higher level.

2. is rather unlikely considering he’d in a disagreement and already perhaps talks before he thinks a bit. I don’t think he’d be receptive. Maybe he’ll prove me wrong.

Edited August 8, 2021 by The0Self

[Inliytened1]

8 minutes ago, wildflower said:

No I vehemently disagree with your approach. 

You're being deluded about how to deal and interact with other humans, it's causing confusion, disconnect and division. 

Here's a question, why when you get to the absolute level, do the rest of us not meet you there? It's just your own experience. Why don't you goto the Absolute level for Adeptus and show him/you yourself....

None of what you say is applicable at all to this relative domain we all are currently existing in. Even Leo called Conor regarding him dragging his brand to the gutter, you need to wake up 

why do you assume there is a rest of us?  Ultimately there is just  Oneness, which  is pure Concisousness - which is YOU!!  you might not be a biological self but you are GOD!.  

[impulse9]

Gonna need to call the fire department after Leo's post

[wildflower]

The problem with the approach from half the people on here, from your paradigm you could/should literally respond to every single message with the advice: "wake up to the Absolute Truth, you're ignorant you created us all to wake yourself up"

Do you see how nonsensical that would be on this forum? or at all

[Tim R]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

why do you assume there is a rest of us?  Ultimately there is just  Oneness is pure Concisousness - which is YOU!!  you might not be a bilogical self but you are GOD!.  

Yeah but that's a bit too much mate. Keep your feet on the ground, we're talking about people interacting with each other. No need to deny the existence of other people in the relative sense. 

Do the eyes deny the existence of the ears only because they can't hear? 

Edited August 8, 2021 by Tim R

[wildflower]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

why do you assume there is a rest of us?  Ultimately there is just  Oneness, which  is pure Concisousness - which is YOU!!  you might not be a biological self but you are GOD!.  

Look I could just copy this post exactly back to you verbatim if I took your approach,,,, can you see that???? Its nonsense to interact with each other this way, there would be no conversation, just an infinite copy paste of your post....

You are literally being a hypocrite and just deluded to even post this post, as if you truly believed what you posted at this level, you wouldnt even post it as there is no one to post it to!!

[The0Self]

2 minutes ago, wildflower said:

The problem with the approach from half the people on here, from your paradigm you could/should literally respond to every single message with the advice: "wake up to the Absolute Truth, you're ignorant you created us all to wake yourself up"

Do you see how nonsensical that would be on this forum? or at all

^^ even though it is sort of true, we could at least be more accurate and say “you created everything to wake yourself up” rather than saying he created us (actualized.org) to do just that... since he already does not think this forum is worth a hill of beans.

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, wildflower said:

 

You are literally being a hypocrite and just deluded to even post this post, as if you truly believed what you posted at this level, you wouldnt even post it as there is no one to post it to!!

Really?  Cuz God creates via illusion. that is all we are doing here.

[wildflower]

Just now, The0Self said:

^^ even though it is sort of true, we could at least be more accurate and say “you created everything to wake yourself up” rather than saying he created us (actualized.org) to do just that... since he already does not think this forum is worth a hill of beans.

But this is the problem, when you say 'you' who are 'you' referring to? Literally you can only be speaking to yourself, there is no Adeptus, you created him to wake yourself up... do you see this infinite regression?

[wildflower]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Really?  Cuz God creates via illusion. that is all we are doing here.

Here is a tip, address all your comments to anyone else regarding awakening.... to yourself, as there is only you to wake up within your paradigm, no one else exists.

As soon as you refer to someone other then yourself, you must use relative language else you're being ignorant and misleading

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, Tim R said:

@Inliytened1 I really don't think this is the right approach...

Telling people who already think that what you're saying is completely deluded that "you have created them to wake you up" sounds like total and utter lunacy to such a person. Whether it is lunacy or not is a different issue. 

The right thing to do is to stop fixating on Leo as a person - but in such a way, that Leo remains?

well... if reality is a Mind, then he only exists when he is imagined.  why beat around the bush?