It appears science is catching up!

[Anton Rogachevski]

https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/new-hypothesis-argues-the-universe-simulates-itself-into-existence?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1627614765

Edited July 31, 2021 by Anton Rogachevski

[RendHeaven]

Lol so cute that it's framed as a "breakthrough," but historical texts have been saying this for literal millennia.

Edited July 31, 2021 by RendHeaven

[Leo Gura]

Using the concept of "simulation" is entirely pointless and meaningless.

The universe doesn't simulate itself. It IS itself.

These science nerds are just parroting cool concepts they heard without actually thinking it through.

[SaWaSaurus]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Using the concept of "simulation" is entirely pointless and meaningless.

The universe doesn't simulate itself. It IS itself.

These science nerds are just parroting cool concepts they heard without actually thinking it through.

The whole simulation thing just begs the question. Ok, so this is a simulation within some other higher level universe, and that explains existence. So what about the higher universe, is there another universe simulating that universe?

 

Seems like simulation theory is just a byproduct of modern tech, where we theorize that maybe future tech could simulate a universe, therefore we might be simulated, etc etc. Just keeps begging the question.

[Leo Gura]

18 hours ago, SaWaSaurus said:

Ok, so this is a simulation within some other higher level universe, and that explains existence. So what about the higher universe, is there another universe simulating that universe?

Even more absurd than that silly notion is the notion of a self-simulation. What the hell does that even mean?

Why do you need a self-simulation when you are have The Self?! The Self is simply itself. It doesn't simulate anything.

A simulation is a model. Reality is not a model.

These scientists have completely lost their fucking minds.

[Peter Miklis]

Those scientists should take a peek at this website and channel. They'll leave with existential crysis?

[roopepa]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

A simulation is a model. Reality is not a model.

So simple, so obvious, yet this blew my mind.

[Terell Kirby]

Reality has no starting or end point, it's infinite..therefore there can be no simulation in which it comes from.

[QandC]

They are trying to solve the question with human logic. 

In the video: "A universal collective consciousness is one answer, but that sounds new-age and religious. Nowadays a number of physicists discuss the idea that our whole universe is actually a code-based simulation in some fantastical quantom computer in another universe, and that is run by another computer in another universe". They automatically dismiss the first idea of a collective consciousness because it sounds new-age and only conform to what they believe is "logical" wtf? How are they ever gonna find an answer to a radical question unless they let go of their own human concepts.

[Danioover9000]

   Relatively speaking, these simulations are getting better. From 2d spritz, to 3d environments, to a fps like view, to a virtual reality simulation. Next one might be a virtual world. What's next? A simulation that includes bodily sensations and focusing metrics? A mental modulation system that's matrix like? We're not there yet, but one day actual reality and simulation will have no apparent differences in between. That's the day humanity is screwed, because if a simulation machine is that good at replication, down to the detail, how else could we differentiate?

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

We're not there yet, but one day actual reality and simulation will have no apparent differences in between.

There has never been a difference between them.

Pong is equally as real as anything esle. To not realize this is the delusion.

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That's the day humanity is screwed, because if a simulation machine is that good at replication, down to the detail, how else could we differentiate?

No machine will ever simulate reality because all machines are finite while reality is infinite.

Infinity cannot be quantized, explicated, modeled, mapped, formalized, represented, or simulated.

There is no escape from God other than through one's own materialist delusions, and even those will end in God with the materialist's death.

[4201]

They're really trying lol (The actual paper https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/22/2/247/htm)

They're really getting close to it with We discuss a non-materialist view called the self-simulation hypothesis, wherein everything is information, which we define as thought. The universe self-actualizes itself into existence

but then loses it

via self-simulation using a mathematical code and a simulation game rule called the principle of efficient language. 

The whole principle of efficient language seems for me to be a property of the human experience (or rather any living thing) since the most concise way to express things is valuable for survival (while in the absolute sense, there is no preference for simplicity). This whole idea that the universe would be simulated with "mathematical code" that is driven by thought is also just adding unecessary steps. If the universe already "self-actualizes itself into existence" (just is) there's no need to add a mathematical code.

But it's common for an assumption to think language is intrinsic to the universe, because of how important it is to human experience.

[Leo Gura]

You gotta sneak the math in there somehow. Otherwise how can nerds take you seriously?

Nerd logic: reality must be math, since I'm a nerd and I like math.