Women won't, (and CAN'T) develop attraction online.

[Javfly33]

So after a loooot of trial and error trying to avoid the tough work of approaching and meeting women in real life (street/clubs/work, etc) by using all kind of tactics and strategies to seduce and try to build attraction purely online, I've realized this channel WON'T EVER WORK

EVER

It has take a lot of time to accept this. But I have. It was also difficult to come to this realization because I AS A MAN I CAN DEVELOP ATTRACTION PURELY ON LOOKS, which means that for me, it's possible to become attracted to a girl just online.

In my ignorance, I hit my head on the wall over and over trying to sort out why "she wasn't getting attracted" to me after all kind of trials, patience, different strategies, etc... Because when it's ONE girl it's not a problem. But when it's one

And two

And three

And another, and another, and another,

You start to believe there is something seriously wrong with yourself.

But thankfully I had this insight that maybe my brain is actually significantly different than her.

That no matter what I do she will never be attracted to me online.

So that's it, I'm done with trying.

I'm basically from this time from now all kind of contact with females online with any implicit hope of "she liking you" it's NOT POSSIBLE. 

Online, You can only offer her money, basically. You can not provide her with any other value that will match his sexual value demands which she values on a man. As Leo said (paraphrasing here), "instead of criticising women for wanting your money, maybe they want you money because you don't have anything else to give them that would of value to them".

Peace!

[Peter Miklis]

Funny that you mention this. I have about 6 girls, one of them being considerably attractive 20 YO, choosing to like my profile on Facebook dating (that I created for shits and giggles). But I have no intention of interacting with them further, because like you said, you can only develop some sort of chemistry in real life.

Besides, online, you really don't know what people intentions are. Although that girl chose my profile, who knows if she really likes me? Maybe she just wanted to be validated. Either way though, who gives a shit?

Online dating is short cut for lazy people.

[Thought Art]

Online is just the connection point imo, then you meet in person 

[RickyFitts]

2 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Online, You can only offer her money, basically. You can not provide her with any other value that will match his sexual value demands which she values on a man. As Leo said (paraphrasing here), "instead of criticising women for wanting your money, maybe they want you money because you don't have anything else to give them that would of value to them"

You could try being emotionally available, empathic, compassionate, understanding, respectful - I've found that women tend to appreciate this sort of behaviour. Depends what you're after though, obviously, if you're just looking for a one-night stand rather than a serious relationship then this approach probably isn't a good idea (because you might actually start to develop an emotional connection with her, which can be sticky).

[Leo Gura]

Dude, you just misunderstand how online dating works. Online is purely about looks. If you don't got the look, you will get garbage. If you got the look, you will get plenty of easy dates.

Obviously you ain't got the look.

Women certainly develop attraction online. Which you can easily check just by replacing your profile pic with that of a guy with the right look. You will get women begging to go on a date with you. If you don't believe me, try it.

[Javfly33]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Dude, you just misunderstand how online dating works. Online is purely about looks. If you don't got the look, you will get garbage. If you got the look, you will get plenty of easy dates.

Obviously you ain't got the look.

Women certainly develop attraction online. Which you can easily check just by replacing your profile pic with that of a guy with the right look. You will get women begging to go on a date with you. If you don't believe me, try it.

@Leo Gura But 2 of them complemented my looks! So they lied or wtf

 You just killed me there idk what to believe anymore Lol.

 

Edited July 25, 2021 by Javfly33

[Leo Gura]

@Javfly33 Dude, you probably didn't even message 100 girls.

So your lack of results means nothing.

You guys simply have such a poor idea of what is required to get serious results in any domain of life.

Results require MASSIVE, PERSISTENT action, not the weak whiny bullshit you guys do.

[Karmadhi]

53 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Results require MASSIVE, PERSISTENT action, not the weak whiny bullshit you guys do

I think this is the case only for "hard cases", people with horrible social skills and bad upbringings. I doubt most healthy guys need that amount of action to get themselves a decent girl. The issue is most guys take almost no action, if they took moderate action (which they do not take and is a problem) it would be enough to satisfy them unless they wanted harems or something.

None of the player friends i have known needed more than like 100 girls to talk with to get laid couple of times. And most of the "talking" was done online.

Bottom line: The worse your social skills are, the more action you will need to take.

Also, no need to call ugly girls "garbage". They are human beings with emotions and feelings too. Just say unattractive girls or girls you will not want back idk.

 

Edited July 25, 2021 by Karmadhi

[Javfly33]

23 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Javfly33 Dude, you probably didn't even message 100 girls.

So your lack of results means nothing.

You guys simply have such a poor idea of what is required to get serious results in any domain of life.

Results require MASSIVE, PERSISTENT action, not the weak whiny bullshit you guys do.

Well anyways this online shit can go fuck itself real approaching/meeting is way way faster to deliver results.

The comfort pays the price of very poor efficacy

[Jacob Morres]

@Javfly33 ik what's it's like but if you optimize your profile and learn detachment you can get decently far with online game - even without much effort 

[Javfly33]

37 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

I think this is the case only for "hard cases", people with horrible social skills and bad upbringings. I doubt most healthy guys need that amount of action to get themselves a decent girl. The issue is most guys take almost no action, if they took moderate action (which they do not take and is a problem) it would be enough to satisfy them unless they wanted harems or something.

None of the player friends i have known needed more than like 100 girls to talk with to get laid couple of times. And most of the "talking" was done online.

Bottom line: The worse your social skills are, the more action you will need to take.

I think the problem too has been that I didn't met all this chicks on an online dating site. It is more of a porn site (it's not really porn but girls try to make money "here") but I try to refuse to pay and seduce them Lol

Edited July 25, 2021 by Javfly33

[Karmadhi]

@Javfly33 I was referring mostly to real life interactions. For online Leo is absolutly right, you need INSANE volume.

@Javfly33 @Lucas-fgm Use photo feeler and get some good pics from that. Usually a pic should be at least a 8.5/10 rated for it to work on dating apps. There is this guy indian pua, super average looking guy and still made a good account that gets results. You just need very very good pictures where you look your best. If you are a 5/10 you can boost it to a 7/10 which should be enough to get results. You will probably not get hotties but better than nothing.

Edited July 25, 2021 by Karmadhi

[Karmadhi]

@Lucas-fgm It is a website where strangers rate your pictures. They also leave feedback. Just use the "dating" domain of it and upload your pictures. They are annonymous. However people there tend to be too nice so unless you get like an 8.5 on attractivness then do not use it,e specially not as a first profile picture.

For profile pic aim for a good 9/10

[aurum]

33 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

I think the problem too has been that I didn't met all this chicks on an online dating site. It is more of a porn site (it's not really porn but girls try to make money "here") but I try to refuse to pay and seduce them Lol

Bro, what?

Your chances of pulling something like that off are 0.

No wonder you’ve had no success.

Get on a normal dating site and hire a portrait, lifestyle or headshot photographer to help you look good. And get a good wardrobe, photographers rarely provide that.

Otherwise you’re just wasting your time.

That said, if this motivated you to meet girls IRL, then don’t let me dampen that fire. That is obviously valuable.

[aurum]

15 minutes ago, Lucas-fgm said:

I didn't understand very well what you meant here tbh haha

OP said in the beginning of his post that he had been avoiding approaching girls offline. And now he has motivated to do so because his experience with online dating has been so poor.

I don’t want him to lose that motivation, even though I’m giving him advice for online dating.

[Jacob Morres]

online dating can be valuable imo. but it requires patience and upfront effort. but after you get good at it you can afford to put in way less effort later

[diamondpenguin]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

 

Results require MASSIVE, PERSISTENT action, not the weak whiny bullshit you guys do.

????this is too funny. Only because it's the truth.lol

 

Edited July 25, 2021 by diamondpenguin

[Karmadhi]

@diamondpenguin Just be confident bro! The first 10.000 approaches are just a warm-up bro! Just hold frame bro! Just be Russell Brand bro! Just be so awsome you can get away with anything bro! Just go to Mars bro! Just be a billionare bro!

[Javfly33]

2 hours ago, aurum said:

Bro, what?

Your chances of pulling something like that off are 0.

No wonder you’ve had no success.

Get on a normal dating site and hire a portrait, lifestyle or headshot photographer to help you look good. And get a good wardrobe, photographers rarely provide that.

Otherwise you’re just wasting your time.

That said, if this motivated you to meet girls IRL, then don’t let me dampen that fire. That is obviously valuable.

Ok, I will do that. I have tried online dating (real dating apps) but I did not hire any photographer.

I have to say I still had hope in pulling that off. I mean they are women after all I can't understand why they can't get attracted even though they are there to make money.

[Bando]

Online dating works fine for me its a good supplement for meeting more women. Heres a trick that jumped my matches by 5-10x hire a professional photographer to get multiple shots of yourself in different outfits or find a person who can take high quality photos with a real camera, actually pay for the services don't use the free versions there useless, and do a slight photoshop on your pictures.

Photoshopping and getting professional pictures was the missing piece that jumped my results online. Be Careful not to go overboard you still want it to be realistic so you don't look like a catfish just rid of the small "imperfections."  Its superficial but hey its online dating its cutthroat if you don't reach a certain looks threshold.