Pramit

How To Think About Reality

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I am asking because descriptions of descriptions are also descriptions. I.e, if we choose to describe the experience, or modify a description of the experience(like, "reality isn't X, its actually Y") it immediately becomes a description. Even if you meditate, and choose your perception carefully, you still have to describe it. So how do you describe what cannot be described? or do you feel no need to describe it at all. 


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Meditation is like polishing a brick to make a mirror. Philosophy is like a net to catch water. The buddah did not meditate. It's just how he sits. 

- Alan Watts 

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Nothing can be described, really. Any meaning or name that you will attach to it will not be it.


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@Pramit What a word means to me may mean something totally different within your experience. Words are at best a finger pointing to something as a general description. Seldom does it hit the exact bulls eye. Especially on this elusive topic that requires a direct experience to fully relate to the words that carry the message. I could write 1000 words on how the North American Nebula looked in the telescope last night but unless you can relate directly to that experience and seen it yourself, all I'm doing is painting a picture in your imagination of something that you have no direct experience of. Maybe the name/description gives you some idea that it's shape is similar to North America and may give you something that you can relate to. But after that it's anyone's guess what you may get out of the other 997 words I used in describing something outside of your direct experience.

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@Pramit For yourself there is no need as this will only lead to mental masturbation. For the sake of communication, however you think is best at that moment, as experience will changes this description constantly anyways.

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@Pramit Recognise that every description is false.  Then, whenever you find yourself relying on a description to think about this (which you have to, because that's how thinking works - even a single word or visualised image is a description, not the Truth), deconstruct that description and check what's underneath it - what it depends upon.  That'll lead to another description you wind up using for a while until you realise that you're using a description, and deconstruct it again...

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@Pramit Reality is not reality it just is and as soon as you start thinking about it, describing it, it has been turned into a concept. A finite model in your mind. No shame in trying to describe it but be aware that it's a finite object that tries to describe the infinite.

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