Do Nothing Technique

[Alex4]

Do you think this technique is productive?, I let my mind wander and explore wherever it goes, is it  another kind of meditative practice ?

I ask this because lately Im spending a lot of time meditating and only doing this technique and I wander if im wasting my time. 

I hope there is some expert and can give some directions.

[Prabhaker]

8 minutes ago, Alex4 said:

I ask this because lately Im spending a lot of time meditating and only doing this technique and I wander if im wasting my time. 

Why does this question arise? This question arises for so many reasons. One, you are not really working. You are just deceiving yourself. You are playing tricks with yourself. You are less concerned with what you are doing and more concerned with what is happening. If you are really doing it, you can leave the result to existence. But our minds are such that we are less concerned with the cause and more concerned with the effect – because of greed. Greed wants to have everything without doing anything. So the greedy mind goes on moving ahead. Then the greedy mind asks, 'What is happening? Is something happening or not?' Be really concerned with what you are doing, and when something happens you will know it. It is going to happen to you. You need not ask anyone.

Whatsoever you are doing, do not think that results will be coming in the future. If you are doing something real, results are here and now. In inner work, if you have meditated today, results are not going to be tomorrow. If you have meditated today. the perfume of it, howsoever little, will be there. If you are sensitive you can feel it. Whenever something real is done, it affects you here and now.

Meditation is not just a certain thing which you do for one hour and forget. Really, the whole of life has to be meditative. Only then will you begin to feel things. And when I say that the whole life is to be meditative, I do not mean to go and close your eyes for twenty-four hours and sit and meditate – no! Wherever you are you can be sensitive and that sensitivity will pay. Then there will be no need to ask, 'Am I progressing or not?' Only with this capacity of being aware of all things happening around you will you develop the capacity to feel what is happening within. 

[Bob84]

@Alex4 This wandering it a addiction of the mind. It always needs to have something to do. And it wants your constant attention.
The more you calm it down, the easier it is to stop paying attention to.
I do suggest trying some self-inquiry meditation.
 

[Alex4]

6 hours ago, Prabhaker said:

Why does this question arise? This question arises for so many reasons. One, you are not really working. You are just deceiving yourself. You are playing tricks with yourself. You are less concerned with what you are doing and more concerned with what is happening. If you are really doing it, you can leave the result to existence. But our minds are such that we are less concerned with the cause and more concerned with the effect – because of greed. Greed wants to have everything without doing anything. So the greedy mind goes on moving ahead. Then the greedy mind asks, 'What is happening? Is something happening or not?' Be really concerned with what you are doing, and when something happens you will know it. It is going to happen to you. You need not ask anyone.

Whatsoever you are doing, do not think that results will be coming in the future. If you are doing something real, results are here and now. In inner work, if you have meditated today, results are not going to be tomorrow. If you have meditated today. the perfume of it, howsoever little, will be there. If you are sensitive you can feel it. Whenever something real is done, it affects you here and now.

Meditation is not just a certain thing which you do for one hour and forget. Really, the whole of life has to be meditative. Only then will you begin to feel things. And when I say that the whole life is to be meditative, I do not mean to go and close your eyes for twenty-four hours and sit and meditate – no! Wherever you are you can be sensitive and that sensitivity will pay. Then there will be no need to ask, 'Am I progressing or not?' Only with this capacity of being aware of all things happening around you will you develop the capacity to feel what is happening within. 

in fact ive experienced a lot of improvements in my life. and I think I have fear of lose this capacity I gained of improving myself.

Now I see my progress is nothing compared with what I still can do and want to get the results fast. But yes I have to be calm and have patience.

also I would add I see most people practice the kind of meditation where you pay attention to your breath.  it creates doubts about if am I doing right

Edited November 22, 2016 by Alex4

[Dodo]

6 hours ago, Prabhaker said:

Why does this question arise? This question arises for so many reasons. One, you are not really working. You are just deceiving yourself. You are playing tricks with yourself. You are less concerned with what you are doing and more concerned with what is happening. If you are really doing it, you can leave the result to existence. But our minds are such that we are less concerned with the cause and more concerned with the effect – because of greed. Greed wants to have everything without doing anything. So the greedy mind goes on moving ahead. Then the greedy mind asks, 'What is happening? Is something happening or not?' Be really concerned with what you are doing, and when something happens you will know it. It is going to happen to you. You need not ask anyone.

Whatsoever you are doing, do not think that results will be coming in the future. If you are doing something real, results are here and now. In inner work, if you have meditated today, results are not going to be tomorrow. If you have meditated today. the perfume of it, howsoever little, will be there. If you are sensitive you can feel it. Whenever something real is done, it affects you here and now.

Meditation is not just a certain thing which you do for one hour and forget. Really, the whole of life has to be meditative. Only then will you begin to feel things. And when I say that the whole life is to be meditative, I do not mean to go and close your eyes for twenty-four hours and sit and meditate – no! Wherever you are you can be sensitive and that sensitivity will pay. Then there will be no need to ask, 'Am I progressing or not?' Only with this capacity of being aware of all things happening around you will you develop the capacity to feel what is happening within. 

You indirectly answered something that was bugging me. I felt this anger, "if there is infinity, why am i not experiencing it? Either i chose to leave infinity for this shitty existence in which case fuck me im stupid, or i have been forced out of it, in which case fuck the perp..." Stuff like that, but thats just my greedy mind, wanting infinity without deserving it. But who can deserve infinity... I bet even infinity doesnt deserve itself, since it didnt have to work for it, or at least im not aware of it :D... Oh man.

[Deepak sadhwani]

@Alex4 ask yourself what is goal of meditation why you do that ? for mental clarity and more aware about thought , awareness , ?  And fix it with open mind , and you got it there is nothing to loose it is concept of mind ego fog 

[Prabhaker]

6 hours ago, Alex4 said:

also I would add I see most people practice the kind of meditation where you pay attention to your breath.  it creates doubts about if am I doing right

If you can just sit, doing nothing with your body and nothing with your mind, it becomes meditation; but it is difficult. You can sit very easily when you are doing something else but the moment you are just sitting and doing nothing, it becomes a problem. I never tell people to begin with just sitting. Begin from where beginning is easy.

[MIARIVEL]

@Alex4 As long as your not procrastinating too much and taking action on the things you ponder about for too long then you will see amazing results for you life. Remember EXECUTION is they key to any success.

[Alex4]

9 hours ago, Prabhaker said:

If you can just sit, doing nothing with your body and nothing with your mind, it becomes meditation; but it is difficult. You can sit very easily when you are doing something else but the moment you are just sitting and doing nothing, it becomes a problem. I never tell people to begin with just sitting. Begin from where beginning is easy.

I can sit for 1 hour without problems, my doubt is if let the mind get lost in thoughts is productive or am I doing it wrong

[Prabhaker]

4 minutes ago, Alex4 said:

mind get lost in thoughts

Normally, so long as you are carried away by your speeding thoughts, you do not feel disturbed by the thoughts. But if you pause in-between, and study your mind, you realise how feverishly it works, and disturbs your peace. This pause is essential for curbing the over-activity of mind. You have to halt and watch your thoughts; for, if your thoughts are running fast, you cannot know your mind.

Take a completely impersonal view of the thought process. Be only an observer of thoughts; have nothing to do with them except to observe them. When thoughts cloud your mind, and harass you, ask them, ‘Oh thoughts! To whom do you belong? Do you belong to me?’ You will get no reply to this inquiry! Because the thoughts do not belong to you! Try and find out.

Look for the gaps between the thoughts, increase your awareness then your 1 hour sitting will be refreshing. 

[MasterJames]

depends on what you gain from :doing nothing" , if you are more happy doing nothing, then do nothing

[Alex4]

4 hours ago, Prabhaker said:

Normally, so long as you are carried away by your speeding thoughts, you do not feel disturbed by the thoughts. But if you pause in-between, and study your mind, you realise how feverishly it works, and disturbs your peace. This pause is essential for curbing the over-activity of mind. You have to halt and watch your thoughts; for, if your thoughts are running fast, you cannot know your mind.

Take a completely impersonal view of the thought process. Be only an observer of thoughts; have nothing to do with them except to observe them. When thoughts cloud your mind, and harass you, ask them, ‘Oh thoughts! To whom do you belong? Do you belong to me?’ You will get no reply to this inquiry! Because the thoughts do not belong to you! Try and find out.

Look for the gaps between the thoughts, increase your awareness then your 1 hour sitting will be refreshing. 

 

Yes, I normally stay there and watch my thoughts as if I were on the cinema.

and about those gaps.. I love them it is when I simply be and there is no pain