My theory of what reality really is. (My particular dream)

[Javfly33]

I think reality is pure imagination.

I think the city in which I was raised , I went to school, and lived my teenage years, was constructed by me. Literally.

And it wasn't constructed in a weird manner, no. Each detail was intelligently designed.

An example:

The logo/icon of my city, is a Lion.

In our culture, Lion is related with "Kings".

My whole life I've been feeling like a victim, like a peasant.

Precisely this city, I judged a lot the people who lived here. I was like scared of them. I moved out to other cities from 18 years old because I always thought "this city is not enough for me". Of course it was a defense mechanism of the ego.

What I want to say anyway is that I was a victim, scared, feeling "separated" from this city. 

For example when I go out I would experience way more social anxiety here than in another city. Social anxiety stems from belief of difference/separation. This means I always felt very separated from this city.

My theory is, I imagined that icon (the icon of the Lion precisely) to end the dream by realizing I am "The king", not the victim, of reality. (The King = I am God. I am so God I constructed my city, their buildings, everything, with my imagination and power)

So while my teenage years I've been living like a victim, in my adulthood years (+30 onwards) I will be the most important person of my city, going completely full circle, loving a lot the people here and basically the city particular spirit/style.

This, that would sound complete madness to a psychologist, seems quite probable for me. In my last retreat the realization that my whole life was totally imaginary arised very deeply. 

And I'm contemplating now this idea.

Of course it doesn't matter a lot, they are just details of the dream. But anyway, I just thought to share it... see what you guys think.

Edited July 16, 2021 by Javfly33

[Eternal Unity]

Liked the Lion analogy. You, indeed, came full circle.

Being imaginative coincide with our creative nature.

[Javfly33]

2 minutes ago, nuwu said:

That's 0.00001% of all the connected dots. Actually, everything that exists is connected, with you (me) as the center.

@nuwu Do you think it's a "shared" dream? ??

[iboughtleosbooklist]

Good to see more people taking solipsism seriously. Maybe it is a shared dream after all. Where are all my perceptual bubbles at y'all ?

[OneHandClap]

This is an ego trip gone wild, TBH. You are drawing conclusions based on symbols that are related to your egoic consciousness.

A lion symbol is just a lion. Your idea of a peasant is your idea of a peasant. 

You imagined that you are a king, and somehow expanded upon this notion to conclude that you have created every detail of your experience as a human being. 

If you deeply, genuinely believed that you were the only thing in the universe, and that all of us were mere NPCs in your dream, you wouldn't even have posted this. It would be self-evident. The fact that you did post it indicates that on some level, you do not accept that you are the sole arbiter of reality. Stay with that doubt. 

[Javfly33]

7 minutes ago, OneHandClap said:

This is an ego trip gone wild, TBH. You are drawing conclusions based on symbols that are related to your egoic consciousness.

A lion symbol is just a lion. Your idea of a peasant is your idea of a peasant. 

You imagined that you are a king, and somehow expanded upon this notion to conclude that you have created every detail of your experience as a human being. 

If you deeply, genuinely believed that you were the only thing in the universe, and that all of us were mere NPCs in your dream, you wouldn't even have posted this. It would be self-evident. The fact that you did post it indicates that on some level, you do not accept that you are the sole arbiter of reality. Stay with that doubt. 

@OneHandClap Couldn't be like @nuwu said?

My theory would be correct and you would still exist 

[OneHandClap]

2 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

@OneHandClap Couldn't be like @nuwu said?

My theory would be correct and you would still exist 

There is certainly the teaching of Indra's Net, in which each intersection of the net is the center. But I still think you are stuck in dualistic thinking by presuming there is imagination and reality. Imagination and reality collapse into one indescribable whole when you are in pure consciousness. There is no room to declare anything as being this or that, high or low, self or other. You are knocking at the door of true understanding, but if you wish to reach it, you may need to abandon the raft of solipsism. It is only a provisional teaching to get you out of the separation mindset; it is not the end of the path.

[Javfly33]

10 minutes ago, OneHandClap said:

There is certainly the teaching of Indra's Net, in which each intersection of the net is the center. But I still think you are stuck in dualistic thinking by presuming there is imagination and reality. Imagination and reality collapse into one indescribable whole when you are in pure consciousness. There is no room to declare anything as being this or that, high or low, self or other. You are knocking at the door of true understanding, but if you wish to reach it, you may need to abandon the raft of solipsism. It is only a provisional teaching to get you out of the separation mindset; it is not the end of the path.

I can abandon it, yeah. 

I'm not sure what you mean with "pure Consciousness".

Is that what you experience on 5-meo-dmt?

I think I was there one time and I didn't understand shit. I definetely can't draw any conclusions from my trips on 5-meo. I'm as confused as always.

Let's not talk about the last time. I experienced this intense feeling of love and I think I black out later because I can't remember much.

But my theory is that 5-meo love realization is not legit because I don't feel more "close" to the people of my city. And in the 5-meo trip it felt like this love was One.

I don't know I'm just so tired of tripping and thinking I've reached some place and then people tell me I'm just intellectualising and not going anywhere.

[OneHandClap]

1 minute ago, Javfly33 said:

I can abandon it, yeah. 

I'm not sure what you mean with "pure Consciousness".

Is that what you experience on 5-meo-dmt?

I think I was there one time and I didn't understand shit. I definetely can't draw any conclusions from my trips on 5-meo. I'm as confused as always.

Let's not talk about the last time. I experienced this intense feeling of love and I think I black out later because I can't remember much.

But my theory is that 5-meo love realization is not legit because I don't feel more "close" to the people of my city. And in the 5-meo trip it felt like this love was One.

I don't know I'm just so tired of tripping and thinking I've reached some place and then people tell me I'm just intellectualising and not going anywhere.

Well, to begin with, your insights are definitely valid on at least some level. Yes, reality (which I called pure consciousness here) is all one. What I mean is, before the Big Bang, there was no time, no space, no matter, no energy. We all existed as one indivisible whole.

But as of this moment, you and I are operating from individual parts of the whole. You are Javfly, I am OneHandClap. We are two pieces of the puzzle. What I mean to say is, although you are stating you are God and that you imagined everything... you have no memory of it, because there was nobody making any of it. Everything was made by this indescribable reality, but it was not you as you exist right now. 

And as we are human beings talking through human languages on the internet, from this level of reality, we're just human beings. We aren't God. We aren't the creator of everything that exists. 

At the level of absolute consciousness/reality/God-consciousness, whatever term you prefer, yes, "we" did make everything. But again, keep in mind relativity. It's two sides of a coin. When you say "you are imaginary," you are negating the fact that everything is also extremely real. If the only reality we will ever experience is imaginary, there is no such thing as imaginary, since there's no other form of reality. Does that make sense? 

[Javfly33]

@OneHandClap but I don't understand if we are One how is it that we are separated?

If it's One Consciousness shouldn't this One Consciousness live EVERYTHING?

 

[OneHandClap]

34 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

@OneHandClap but I don't understand if we are One how is it that we are separated?

If it's One Consciousness shouldn't this One Consciousness live EVERYTHING?

 

Because oneness and manyness are identical It's a paradox. It cannot be known or conceptualized, only experienced. Turn off the thinking and simply abide as reality... you will soon see how the one could be many, and vice versa.

[Breakingthewall]

@Javfly33 you do not understand the scope of the ego game. all you think about is ego. solipism, or that we are many, pure ego. you are not someone, you are something. that something is unlike anything you can think of. stop thinking and get out of the ego, or keep thinking and stay in the ego, but don't mistake one for the other

[Javfly33]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Javfly33 you do not understand the scope of the ego game. all you think about is ego. solipism, or that we are many, pure ego. you are not someone, you are something. that something is unlike anything you can think of. stop thinking and get out of the ego, or keep thinking and stay in the ego, but don't mistake one for the other

@Breakingthewall Well this makes me pissed! Are psychedelics useless at the end of the day? Because they have definetely impacted this type of thinking. And I thought they were the recipe for avoiding the ego ??‍♂️?

[Breakingthewall]

39 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

Are psychedelics useless at the end of the day?

@Javfly33 the ego is a smart bastard. a genius. it disguises itself in many ways. in the end, all that is software is ego. I mean any thought, idea, concept. The difficult thing about this is being able to be without thought or concept, even for a moment, it is anti-human. you have to fool yourself. meditation and psychedelics are the tool, but don't think psychedelics are going to do the job for you. you have to want to transcend the concept, not replace it with another. Psychedelic could help you , but you must want to let the ego go (the ego must want to let himself go)

Edited July 17, 2021 by Breakingthewall

[OneHandClap]

3 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

@Breakingthewall Well this makes me pissed! Are psychedelics useless at the end of the day? Because they have definetely impacted this type of thinking. And I thought they were the recipe for avoiding the ego ??‍♂️?

Taking psychedelics to avoid the ego is an oxymoron  Especially because the ego is the very thing that told you it could be destroyed or avoided via psychs. Your only goal should be to know what is true. Forget the words ego, God, self, other, and world for a moment. Psychedelics are not useless, but they are not a magic bullet to full understanding of reality unless you can actually drop the labels. Otherwise it's just a playground for an egoic mind with some powerful rides to go on. 

[Consilience]

53 minutes ago, OneHandClap said:

Taking psychedelics to avoid the ego is an oxymoron  Especially because the ego is the very thing that told you it could be destroyed or avoided via psychs. Your only goal should be to know what is true. Forget the words ego, God, self, other, and world for a moment. Psychedelics are not useless, but they are not a magic bullet to full understanding of reality unless you can actually drop the labels. Otherwise it's just a playground for an egoic mind with some powerful rides to go on. 

This. 

@Javfly33 The most powerful thing you could do is just start grounding these ideas into direct experience via meditation. Of course that's my opinion, projection, but all these posts as of late have been incredibly conceptual, it seems. Can you sit with yourself for hours on end? Has the surface level of mind so fully seen the imaginative quality of reality's depths that it can rest in Being with complete ease, unity, harmony, tranquility, equanimity, and actually enjoy it? Because when you truly see the utter God like nature of reality, all of these non-dualistic, solipsistic ideas just evaporate as non-problems, they're seen to have never even been problems and one drops all ideas that there's anywhere to go, anything to do, and no problems to be had other than one's misunderstanding of the present moment. How do we know if we're misunderstanding the present moment? The degree to which we start suffering as we sit in silence, stillness, and meditation.  

[OneHandClap]

22 minutes ago, Consilience said:

@Javfly33 The most powerful thing you could do is just start grounding these ideas into direct experience via meditation. Of course that's my opinion, projection, but all these posts as of late have been incredibly conceptual, it seems. Can you sit with yourself for hours on end? Has the surface level of mind so fully seen the imaginative quality of reality's depths that it can rest in Being with complete ease, unity, harmony, tranquility, equanimity, and actually enjoy it? Because when you truly see the utter God like nature of reality, all of these non-dualistic, solipsistic ideas just evaporate as non-problems, they're seen to have never even been problems and one drops all ideas that there's anywhere to go, anything to do, and no problems to be had other than one's misunderstanding of the present moment. How do we know if we're misunderstanding the present moment? The degree to which we start suffering as we sit in silence, stillness, and meditation.  

Great way to put it. To be honest, times like this are when I take a brief page from the materialist handbook, not as truth but merely as a conceptual framework to get away from the labeling tendency.

If we can just, if only for a moment, imagine that our brain's only job is to keep this human body alive, we can begin to understand that the only way off the wild rollercoaster is to accept that the brain will never be happy by choice. Thus, it falls to us to tell the brain, over and over, that everything is okay. That it is arising from the same quantum field as every other object. That you are already quite fine as you are, and there is nothing to do, fear, fight, or run from. After sufficient time with this basic "massaging the brain," all is revealed to be perfect in itself.

This state, of course, is what we call "God," or infinite consciousness, or even oneness. But what Consilience is pointing to, @Javfly33, is that this state is something the mind literally cannot grasp. It is a dog chasing its tail. Setting aside the seeking, the sought is revealed to have been here all along.

Tada.