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Gianna

Seeing The Ox

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Do you see the ox on psychedelics? Or just its tail.. 

Edited by Gianna

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I guess that will just depend on the trip for that person right? I've never taken psychedelics, but I've talked to people who've taken psychedelics but there's almost zero spiritual aspect to their experience.
This could be for multiple reasons, one reason I speculate being that they had 0 spiritual intention or dedication, and hence they didn't actualise any spiritual insights. 

A big factor might be this though. Certain psychedelics are guaranteed to give you very intense strong ego-death experiences, whilst other psychedelics are variable whether they produce non-dual experience or not {I haven't taken psychedelics, just from what I've heard}.

If what people say about psychedelics is true, you'll be able to go much further than just see the ox, if you do psychedelic practice correctly. 

Edited by lmfao

Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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I like listening to the talks of Terence McKenna on YouTube to get some idea of what psychedelics are like. Now there was a man of wide and copious experience in this field, he tried many different substances and reported on it. But he was not really a spiritual person, even after many sessions, which leads me to believe that not everyone interprets their experiences in a spiritual way. 


“Nowhere is it writ that anthropoid apes should understand reality.” - Terence McKenna

 

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