The brain has evolved to DECEIVE you

[RMQualtrough]

I think evolution has kitted our brains out to HIDE reality, not to show it. This makes sense. The reality is, in even the most materialist paradigm everything is part of the universe. For a creature this view would make survival harder or even impossible so it must be hidden. It must be hidden so the creature identifies self and other and cares for only its own survival.

Everything being consciousness (à la Brahman, etc) is an idea that would diminish a creature's urgency to survive, so the idea must be hidden.

When people smoke DMT or whatever, they have wild hallucinations. But consider for a moment, there are almost infinite things you could hallucinate. You could hallucinate you're buying groceries at the supermarket. But no, there's always an underlying "here's the secrets of reality" tone. It's very weirdly specific that it hones in on that... Then you Google it and discover the "space clown" just endowed you with the entirety of the Upinashads. Like wtf?

I think these drugs are simply undoing the lies our brain perpetuates to ensure survival. The truth is already there. Our brains KNOW the truth. It's just hiding it because hiding truth and displaying only what is beneficial for survival is evolutionarily advantageous.

When the brain's default way of being (deceitful) is disrupted by drugs, the truth is so glaringly obvious as to be comical. Psychedelics are switching off our brain and reverting us to a state stumbled upon by mystics and saints.

SOBER life is the hallucination. That is the deceit. A huge complex web of deceit that tries to ensure survival and replication over accuracy. If seeing colors as sounds was evolutionarily beneficial, that's how we would experience color. The brain does not care about showing you what is real.

[Nahm]

Point to it. 

[Leo Gura]

You'd don't get it.

The brain and evolution ARE deceptions.

[The0Self]

@RMQualtrough

Brother... that’s all well and good. Fun theories... But really? Evolution, biology, brains, and even the universe itself are just justifications for why this is as it is.

Evolution didn’t lead to this moment. That is by design exactly backwards.

Rather, this moment timelessly stretches its arms out in eternal infinity and creates everything — including evolution. Causelessly.

Edited July 4, 2021 by The0Self

[Adamq8]

2 minutes ago, The0Self said:

@RMQualtrough

 

Rather, this moment timelessly stretched its arms out in eternal infinity and created everything — including evolution.

 

This.

 

[RMQualtrough]

54 minutes ago, The0Self said:

@RMQualtrough

Brother... that’s all well and good. Fun theories... But really? Evolution, biology, brains, and even the universe itself are just justifications for why this is as it is.

Evolution didn’t lead to this moment. That is by design exactly backwards.

Rather, this moment timelessly stretches its arms out in eternal infinity and creates everything — including evolution. Causelessly.

I can't get this. I mean, I could just say all that exists is me, etc, but I want to connect all the dots in between to see the interplay etc.

The impossibility of an external world is actually more difficult to understand. When I thought the world was really there it was easy to envision matter is a manifestation of Brahman and actually exists out there in a world.

I realize now that this is impossible. And that is confusing. Everything fit perfectly before tied up with a nice little bow.

...I cannot say that there is not the appearance of a world happening. The APPEARANCE of a world in which smoking some funky toad secretion crosses the blood brain barrier and alters the content of consciousness for the localization I label as me, the appearance of such a world is certainly happening.

It is evident that the ego is a creation of the brain to ensure survival and replication. When there was a real external world, this was very easy to put together.

I understand that what is out there does not BECOME something when it is perceived, it is still NOTHING out there. And it was nothing before. The rocks and such smashing into each other is one of the infinite possible manifestations which exist in this singularity. And our perceptions are showing "this" sub-reality where a big bang happened then space and time and rocks and etc.

It all exists right now in the same place. All universes. Perceptions alter which reality we perceive??????

But anyway... With all this said, survival of the fittest is adaptation to survive in WHAT exactly? Since there IS nothing to adapt to? Is it that the perceptions place us into a reality where objects and matter are, from this perspective very much real? We're adapting to matter "out there" even though there is no "out there"?

An absolute, top to bottom totality of explanation for all of reality is important to me. Just the realization that I am all that exists and that you are me, I am you, "I am Leo" etc may satisfy some emotional or life improvement side of me but until I can explain it all in absolute totality with all the links and intricacies, I will need more...... I do not need more to believe it is right, but to satisfy a deep seated desire for knowledge and understanding.

 

Edited July 4, 2021 by RMQualtrough

[Inliytened1]

5 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:

I can't get this. I mean, I could just say all that exists is me, etc, but I want to connect all the dots in between to see the interplay etc.

 

This is the deception.  The ego wants to understand things logically but that is merely a ploy of the ego to control reality and prevent you as God from ever becoming reality itself because this will be the demise of the ego mind.   Yes do not take it as a belief but no don't over think things.  Thought will lead you in an endless loop because Truth is prior to thought.   The practices have been laid out for you.  Self inquiry combined with other forms of meditation, as well as psychedelics.

[RMQualtrough]

What's really creepy to think about, is if infinite realities are happening all overlayed here, with the sheer dividing line being nothing more than perception (e.g. if we perceive the world of the big bang and cosmos then we evolve and adapt and sense that world), then by perceiving something different we are perhaps legitimately seeing another existent reality? So it's not the big bang cosmos reality perceived anymore it's something new.

E.g. when we smoke the fuck out of some DMT, it alters our perceptions, and if what is real to us IS perceptions, then it is literally placing us into another very real and existing reality that is as real as this one... Though the brain would still be that "imagined" thing allowing for this exploration since the entire experience is allowed for BY the altered perceptions induced by a drug existent in this perceived sub-reality. Hm.............

[WaveInTheOcean]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

You'd don't get it.

The brain and evolution ARE deceptions.

Everything is a deception, i.e. everything is real.

OP was just explaining - very brilliantly - that even from the materliast/science-PoV it is obvious that the 'average human experience of being a self inside a body in a physical world' is illusory, deceiving.

It must be so tough to be you Leo.

You are so often so harsh and hypercritical of others in your videos and on this forum, which must imply you yourself are insanely self-critical and - often - deeply lost in thought.

What is holding you back from letting go - sober - of your thinking mind? (And follow the body's and heart's and 'outside world''s wisdom/intuition more than your own hypercritical never-ending limited mental thoughts).

[The0Self]

15 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:

But anyway... With all this said, survival of the fittest is adaptation to survive in WHAT exactly? Since there IS nothing to adapt to? Is it that the perceptions place us into a reality where objects and matter are, from this perspective very much real? We're adapting to matter "out there" even though there is no "out there"?

An absolute, top to bottom totality of explanation for all of reality is important to me. Just the realization that I am all that exists and that you are me, I am you, "I am Leo" etc may satisfy some emotional or life improvement side of me but until I can explain it all in absolute totality with all the links and intricacies, I will need more...... I do not need more to believe it is right, but to satisfy a deep seated desire for knowledge and understanding.

That’s all you extending your tendrils of existence, so to speak, outward throughout eternity and infinity. Survival is another story for how this is. That doesn’t mean it’s false, it’s simply the timeless appearance of everything. Basically there is no separation and that’s the end of it, but cognitive understanding won’t do much you have to actually do the work, optionally take psychedelics, contemplate, inquire, FEEL, effortlessly be yourself, and create.

[Inliytened1]

27 minutes ago, The0Self said:

That’s all you extending your tendrils of existence, so to speak, outward throughout eternity and infinity. Survival is another story for how this is. That doesn’t mean it’s false, it’s simply the timeless appearance of everything. Basically there is no separation and that’s the end of it, but cognitive understanding won’t do much you have to actually do the work, optionally take psychedelics, contemplate, inquire, FEEL, effortlessly be yourself, and create.

Perfect

 

[Inliytened1]

@WaveInTheOceanNewsflash - you are God imagining Leo.  Let go of the desire to call out Leo.  Trying to change him is a figment of your imagination as God.   If you want to go ahead but my guess it probably only causes you suffering cuz you are the only thing in existence.

[WaveInTheOcean]

48 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@WaveInTheOceanNewsflash - you are God imagining Leo.  Let go of the desire to call out Leo.  Trying to change him is a figment of your imagination as God.   If you want to go ahead but my guess it probably only causes you suffering cuz you are the only thing in existence.

Let go of the desire to call out me mr. God;)

[iboughtleosbooklist]

All science and materialist paradigms of consciousness were created by God so it could experience a material reality with "others". It's extremely deceptive. Ever wonder how the world works so perfectly? Ever wonder how smartphones are so incredibly designed? It's all imaginary my friend. Look up on YouTube "how mirrors are made" and watch it with the knowledge that what you are watching is God's imagination of how mirrors could be made. None of this is real ?. But it's a real illusion. Heck, it's realer than the realest thing that could spawn out of a big-bang material universe. Imagine if we were actually made out of material and brains and atoms? Shit is kinda creepy. Being made of consciousness is way cooler.

[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

Let go of the desire to call out me mr. God;)

I've seen it like 3-4 times in recent posts.  It's not like I said something the first time you did it...but when it becomes a trend it starts to make one think maybe there is something this person is carrying within them....just a POV of course

 

[WaveInTheOcean]

19 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

but when it becomes a trend it starts to make one think maybe there is something this person is carrying within them....just a POV of course

 

*think* ?

Call Leo out then for me, will you???️

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

*think* ?

 

But ofcourse - this is complete self entertainment.  You are completely alone and anything outside you must be imagined or thought up

 

[WaveInTheOcean]

1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

But ofcourse - this is complete self entertainment.  You are completely alone and anything outside you must be imagined or thought up

 

Exactly ?

[Inliytened1]

Just now, WaveInTheOcean said:

Exactly ?

Got me