Will the US economy collapse like the Roman empire?

[ItsNick]

5 hours ago, StarfoxEpiphany said:

Your beloved social democracies don't because there's no EU military.

Who cares, every member state has a military already.

[DocWatts]

3 hours ago, Lucas-fgm said:

@Harlen Kelly  The Communist state would be the ultimate stage of society where would not be even high officials of the government. Communism is a stateless society. 

That's correct but it largely misses the point.

It's basically the equivalent of when Libertarians take great pains to point out that the United States is a Constitutional Republic rather than a Democracy. When you know full that when someone from the contemporary era mentions democracy they're referring to a Republic rather than an Athenian style democracy.

Likewise, since the aforementioned stateless society has never been achieved, Communism is a perfectly functional label for Socialist countries with a Centrally Planned Economy, even if it's not 'correct' in a technical sense.

Edited June 27, 2021 by DocWatts

[Leo Gura]

Reminds me of the quote: The Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.

I guess Nazis were socialists too, eh?

[StarfoxEpiphany]

7 hours ago, ItsNick said:

Who cares, every member state has a military already.

It's intentionally not an EU military beacuse if it was combined, they'd have responsibilities. 

They would have to stand by and watch genocides without an excuse or make shitty decisions to go do something about it.   They can also mininize funding this way because they're all 'too small' to do anything, anyway.  

[Opo]

5 minutes ago, StarfoxEpiphany said:

It's intentionally not an EU military beacuse if it was combined, they'd have responsibilities. 

They would have to stand by and watch genocides without an excuse or make shitty decisions to go do something about it.   They can also mininize funding this way because they're all 'too small' to do anything, anyway.  

Did you recently come from the mountains? 

Google nato. 

[StarfoxEpiphany]

@Opo Turkey is part of NATO, dude.  

[Girzo]

3 hours ago, StarfoxEpiphany said:

It's intentionally not an EU military beacuse if it was combined, they'd have responsibilities. 

No, it's not that. It's because the EU can still break at any point and then tell me, who would direct the military, who would the single army attack, and who would they protect if a conflict arises?

It's the US that invests crazily in the military and stirs up conflicts everywhere in the world. The EU has a different set of values, it's not an excuse not to bomb some shit in the Middle East, it's just knowing that bombing shit doesn't really help. You w

14 hours ago, Lucas-fgm said:

Man, U.S.S.R means "Union of Soviet Socialist Republics". As the name says, it was socialist and not communist.

It was Stalin who said "Ok, USSR is now a communist country! We did it!", without actually achieving its goals, just for propaganda reasons or something. In Poland, we refer to that period as it has been called by our own party, that is communism, or use the name of the country PRL or name of the party PZPR. Only hardcore socialists advocating for 75% income taxes over $125k/year argue that in Poland the system wasn't communism and should be called something else.

[voxun]

4 hours ago, StarfoxEpiphany said:

It's intentionally not an EU military beacuse if it was combined, they'd have responsibilities. 

They would have to stand by and watch genocides without an excuse or make shitty decisions to go do something about it.   They can also mininize funding this way because they're all 'too small' to do anything, anyway.  

Dude since when have armies like US done something about genocides? The only reason they go to war is to make a profit. Responsibilities... What a joke ?

[Michael569]

@StarfoxEpiphany @Harlen Kelly you guys need to let go of that bickering across different topics. Just agree to disagree and move on 

[StarfoxEpiphany]

@Michael569 Her and Opo keep following me around ever since I posted this Aldous Huxley quote explaining why I quit being a progressive:

 

Quote

“The surest way to work up a crusade in favor of some good cause is to promise people they will have a chance of maltreating someone. To be able to destroy with good conscience, to be able to behave badly and call your bad behavior 'righteous indignation' — this is the height of psychological luxury, the most delicious of moral treats.”
― Aldous Huxley, Crome Yellow

 

Edited June 28, 2021 by StarfoxEpiphany

[StarfoxEpiphany]

3 hours ago, voxun said:

Dude since when have armies like US done something about genocides? The only reason they go to war is to make a profit. Responsibilities... What a joke ?

The Holocaust is still going on in North Korea, but they managed to save South Korea. 

Edited June 28, 2021 by StarfoxEpiphany

[Windappreciator]

43 minutes ago, StarfoxEpiphany said:

The Holocaust is still going on in North Korea, but they managed to save South Korea. 

Thema Holocaust is still going on with animals.

[StarfoxEpiphany]

12 minutes ago, Windappreciator said:

Thema Holocaust is still going on with animals.

That depends if you think cows, pigs, and chickens should exist since most of them wouldn't be here without us. 

I see where you're coming from though.

Edited June 28, 2021 by StarfoxEpiphany

[Windappreciator]

2 minutes ago, StarfoxEpiphany said:

That depends if you think cows, pigs, and chickens should exist, but I see where you're coming from.

They exist whether one thinks they should or not.

Edited June 28, 2021 by Windappreciator

[StarfoxEpiphany]

3 minutes ago, Windappreciator said:

They exist whether one thinks they should or not.

If nobody ate meat most of the cows, chickens, and pigs would be gone.  That's part of the ethical dilemma.

[Windappreciator]

6 minutes ago, StarfoxEpiphany said:

If nobody ate meat most of the cows, chickens, and pigs would be gone.  That's part of the ethical dilemma.

Sure, one an trap women in a dungeon and impregnate them as much as one can and repeat that with their daughters. If one wouldnt be doing that all those children wouldnt exist, but thats part of the ethical dilemma i suppose.

Edited June 28, 2021 by Windappreciator

[StarfoxEpiphany]

@Windappreciator Yeah, I know what you mean.  Where I'm at they don't treat the pigs very well, but they let the poultry roam freely so I mostly eat birds.  They also let the 'cows' graze with shephards so I'll eat beef, too.

[Windappreciator]

@StarfoxEpiphany Yeah, some pimps let their hookers have a ladies night occasionally too once in a while.

[StarfoxEpiphany]

@Windappreciator Haha, most 'pimps' are madams who do the marketing for the prostitutes.  

[Windappreciator]

@StarfoxEpiphany All the things that go beyond your current comfort of living have a down side to it, such that you can never pursue them, am I right honey? There is always something in the outside world which you can point at as being false or a mistake and never is there anything in your judgment that is off.