Feminism Book Recommendations? (Courses, Documentaries, Videos ...?)

[peqkno]

Any recommendations for the purposes of understanding feminism?
I'm aware of the book on Leo's book list and will use it as a launching point into understanding feminism.

 

@Emerald said some while ago:

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I recommend ALL the books by Jean Benedict Raffa. She has three of them and one in the works. She's my favorite. I also recommend "The Heroine's Journey" by Maureen Murdoch, "The Pregnant Darkness" by Monika Wikman, "Androgyny" by June Singer, and "Goddesses in Every Woman" by Jean Shinoda Bolen. I also recommend perusing the work of Carl Jung, whose theories form a large part of the basis of the ideas these books were written from. 

You might also try reading work from Merlin Stone, Marian Woodman, Robert Stanford, and others like that. Jean Raffa always has really good bibliographies of suggested literature in the backs of her books. 

 

@Etherial Cat tagging you here, because you had given a recommendation which I haven't saved.
(This thread got deleted once due to the database corruption where two days of forum posts were lost.)

 

[Etherial Cat]

Oh yes. I recommend you Cassandra Speaks from Elizabeth Lesser.

There are some videos of her commenting her book on youtube, if you want to make an idea of what it is all about. Otherwise, it's also available on audible.

[Emerald]

3 hours ago, peqkno said:

Any recommendations for the purposes of understanding feminism?
I'm aware of the book on Leo's book list and will use it as a launching point into understanding feminism.

 

@Emerald said some while ago:

 

@Etherial Cat tagging you here, because you had given a recommendation which I haven't saved.
(This thread got deleted once due to the database corruption where two days of forum posts were lost.)

 

To understand modern Feminist philosophies, I recommend "Yes Means Yes!: Visions of Female Sexual Power and A World Without Rape" by Jessica Valenti. 

It's a collection of essays. So, it will give you an idea of many different perspectives under the same umbrella of Feminism. 

When I read it a decade or so ago, it was my jumping off point into Feminism after being fairly anti-Feminist throughout my teen years. 

I found after a while that the Feminist material didn't quite go as deep as I was looking to go. That's when I found the authors I described above. They give a deeper, more Stage Yellow/Turquoise understanding of Feminism.

But if you want to understand Stage Green Feminism (which is arguably even more important than understanding Stage Yellow/Turquoise Feminism at the current juncture), then I recommend looking into "Yes Means Yes!"

 

Edited June 27, 2021 by Emerald

[peqkno]

20 hours ago, Emerald said:

"Yes Means Yes!: Visions of Female Sexual Power and A World Without Rape" by Jessica Valenti

Thanks.
The book, in case someone else here wants to read it: https://archive.org/details/yesmeansyes00frie/

[peqkno]

On 7/8/2021 at 9:29 AM, modmyth said:

For understanding the roots of second wave feminism, if you have the guts and desire to tackle a nearly 1000 page philosophical text, I would seriously recommend you find the translation that was published in 2009 by Constance Borde and Sheila Malovany-Chevallier.

https://archive.org/details/secondsex0000beau_b3k4/page/n835/mode/2up

Well, as this beast of a book is pretty available, I'll sure check out parts of it. Thanks.

 

Looks like all the others are easily available too:

On 7/8/2021 at 9:29 AM, modmyth said:

"Men Explain Things to Me" by Rebecca Solnit

https://archive.org/details/isbn_9781608464661

 

On 7/8/2021 at 9:29 AM, modmyth said:

Mary Wollstonecraft's "A Vindication of the Rights of Woman"

https://archive.org/details/vindicationofrig00woll_1

 

On 6/26/2021 at 11:00 PM, peqkno said:

books by Jean Benedict Raffa

https://archive.org/details/bridgetowholenes0000raff

 

On 6/26/2021 at 11:00 PM, peqkno said:

"The Heroine's Journey" by Maureen Murdoch

https://archive.org/details/heroinesjourney00murd

 

On 6/26/2021 at 11:00 PM, peqkno said:

"Androgyny" by June Singer

https://archive.org/details/androgynyopposit00sing

 

On 6/26/2021 at 11:00 PM, peqkno said:

"Goddesses in Every Woman" by Jean Shinoda Bolen

https://archive.org/details/goddessesinevery00jean
 

 

 

LOL. For anyone wanting to take on the challenge of actually understanding feminism... ^^^^there ya go.

 

[Zigzag Idiot]

I think this may count.

Back in the 1930’s and 40’s there was a group of women artists and writers. Most who happened to be lesbian that we’re interested in the Work that Gurdjieff was teaching. One book called The Rope was specifically about this group which included Kathryn Hulme, Margarette Anderson, Georgette Leblanc, Solita Solano and others. 
Besides The Rope, Two books of Kathryn Hulme’s that I really enjoyed was The Nun’s Story and Undiscovered Country.

https://www.gurdjieff.org/rope.htm

[RuthLew]

On 09.07.2021 at 8:10 PM, peqkno said:

https://archive.org/details/secondsex0000beau_b3k4/page/n835/mode/2up

Well, as this beast of a book is pretty available, I'll sure check out parts of it. Thanks.

 

Looks like all the others are easily available too:

https://archive.org/details/isbn_9781608464661

 

https://archive.org/details/vindicationofrig00woll_1

 

https://archive.org/details/bridgetowholenes0000raff

 

https://archive.org/details/heroinesjourney00murd

 

https://archive.org/details/androgynyopposit00sing

 

https://archive.org/details/goddessesinevery00jean
 

 

 

LOL. For anyone wanting to take on the challenge of actually understanding feminism... ^^^^there ya go.

 

Much of this did not come across. The selection is good, thanks!

[myles]

Good books, thanks for the recommendations
 

[AriSujan]

 

[Rilles]

Simone De Bouiver - The Second Sex

Angela Davis - Women, Race and Class

Judith Butler - Gender Trouble

Men Explain Things To Me - Rebecca Solnit

Aint I A Woman - bell hooks

Delusions Of Gender - Cordelia Fine

Whipping Girl - Julia Serano

Backlash - Susan Faludi

Susan Brownmiller - Against Our Will

Everyday Sexism - Laura Bates

Betty Friedan - The Feminine Mystique

Sexual Politics - Kate Millet

Naomi Wolf - The Beauty Myth

Shulamith Firestone - Dialectic Of Sex

Sister, Outsider - Audre Lorde

 

These are all the "classics" I havent read all of them, the ones in bold are keytexts. 

Edited September 4, 2021 by Rilles

[Etherial Cat]

I'm currently reading "Why does patriarchy persist?" by Carol Gillian and Naomi Snider.

It is extremely insightful. It relies both on social sciences and psychology and explore concepts as such as attachment theory in order to explain the notion of patriarchy. I'm 1/3 through and the author even mentions concepts as such as the shadow. 

Carol Gillian used to have a chair at Harvard in Gender Studies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Gilligan

SD wise I'd say it is stage Yellowish looking back at stage Green. The emphasis on love, its repression and relationships in general though is spot on and makes it approach valuable or later stages as well. I find it to be a sort of rosetta stone between secular thinking and spirituality.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/39971978-why-does-patriarchy-persist

 

[HypnoticMagician]

@peqkno

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[Proserpina]

@HypnoticMagician Wow. Okay. 

Women excel in virtues that often get overlooked (big 5 - agreeableness [empathy,  compassion], enthusiasm [happiness,  cheerfulness])

It would be a cold,  gloomy place without the cheerful,  loving nature of females.  How can you say they are inferior?

[Loving Radiance]

@HypnoticMagician That is deepest redpill ideology. Watch out on this forum or you will be banned as Leo doesn't tend to waste time with dogmatic people.

@Proserpina Don't bother to comment on the content level of the comment. That just fuels the identity games and validates the ego.

Edited October 4, 2021 by Loving Radiance

[Etherial Cat]

@HypnoticMagician

Your intellectual superiority shines through your writing. We are all very much impressed .

Edited October 4, 2021 by Etherial Cat

[bejapuskas]

Seeing Like a Feminist by Nivedita Menon, it looks at all the different types of feminism and points out the corrupt ones and the more conscious ones, it also talks about intersectionality and different forms of privilege.

[HypnoticMagician]

@Loving Radiance

"That is deepest redpill ideology. Watch out on this forum or you will be banned as Leo doesn't tend to waste time with dogmatic people."

Well, If Leo truly claims to be so open-minded, it would be quite contradictory.  If you immediately try to dismiss any idea foreign to you, you are the one who is dogmatic. I wouldn't even mind if a female supremacist come to this forum and talk about how matriarchy would save us. If you really claim to be open-minded, you also need to be open-minded about allowing true freedom of speech, not secretly censoring the members you don't agree with. This is not democracy. By the way, I am neither sexist or racist. I am just playing with different ideas for intellectual stimulation I was even a female supremacist at the time after reading Elise Sutton's book. So long as my future wife won't harm me, why judge her for being dominant. Of course, I am no longer into such a thing. lol.

"Don't bother to comment on the content level of the comment. That just fuels the identity games and validates the ego."

There is nothing wrong with your ego. The problem is not ego but not being able to disable it when you really need to immerse yourself in an important topic or activity unlike what buddhist monks usually states. They meditate for years yet still don't become enlightened if we exclude a few exceptions.