How conscious is martyrdom?

[ArcticGong]

One of my favorite anecdotes from Leo's videos is about Socrates when he was put on trial for corrupting the youth. Most of my role models died for a cause they believed in. However, do I not exclude people who lose a lot for what they believe in, meaning that they don't have to pay the ultimate price. Now to my question, how conscious is the act of martyrdom.

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[WelcometoReality]

@ArcticGong Martyrdom can be hard to pinpoint on a certain consciousness level. If we use spiral dynamics as the  tool to point to certain consciousness levels, I would argue that there probably has been martyrs on every stage except for perhaps beige.

[ArcticGong]

Is a person who knows beforehand that he or she would be canceled to be considered a light martyr? 

[The0Self]

At death it will be recognized that one's life never happened the way one thought. It won't be over for anyone. Levels of consciousness is a powerful construct.

[lmfao]

Depends what kind of martyr you are I guess haha. Also, it sounds strange to consider but, I think there are many people who would find it easier to sacrifice their life to save someone than they would find it easy to do public speaking or some other  social fear. So facing fears and the such, anyone can do without killing themselves. 

But yeah I admire martyrdom stories as well. 

Edited June 21, 2021 by lmfao