Where Is The Mind?

[charlie cho]

where is it? In our heads? Is that all? Our thoughts are only in our heads? Or is it un relatable to our locational model? I need the answer.

I experienced thoughts to be in the back of my head, on my forehead, somewhere between the eye brow..... Sometimes somewhere in the mouth

i heard every cell has a thought. Does that mean thought is everywhere? I also heard the model... Mind is body (for example, if you are happy, your mouth makes a smile. If you are depressed, your suddenly crouch) same for the insides of the body

Edited February 10, 2016 by charlie cho

[Dan B]

That's an interesting view for sure. Something else you may find interesting that I've come to realize about myself is that not only do my thoughts arise from my senses, but they are basically formed by every single belief and experience I've racked up since birth. It's somewhat disturbing to peek into the true nature of thoughts.

[Ayla]

@charlie cho ,

There's something/someone there who sees all that you describe, isn't it? Who/what is THAT ONE? 

[charlie cho]

@Ayla is it awareness? I called it awareness. 

[Ayla]

If you can call it, you can see it. Who is the one who is seeing it?

 

[Neo]

I've never correlated thoughts with the senses to be honest. You can have a hallucination in one of the senses, not necessarily visual, and this takes on form as if it were a sense, however it's very different to the shape of a thought.

[charlie cho]

N/a

Edited February 10, 2016 by charlie cho

[Guest]

So when you are dreaming are there thoughts because of the "dream" senses?

Or if you say that thought is somewhere in the head what about a head in a dream?  Is it a container of thought also?

Is the dream itself thought? 

If thought is everywhere, does that mean that there is a not a place where it cannot be?  How about in the Sun?  How about the split second or space between thoughts that one can often notice during meditation?

Is the head (ie the brain) the source of thought -or- is it merely an instrument that receives energy waves of and manifests them as thought, just like a radio or television receiver?

Is thought just a phenomenal manifestation?  That would mean that mind is phenomenal also.  This would then be a manifestation of consciousness, just like bodies and stars and planets.

What we think we are... Is that not a manifestation of thought by definition?  That would put personal self or ego in the realm of thought.

This can be the motivation for several meditation periods.

joy

[mobiusreality]

What is self , but thought. The practice of meditation... to be without thought, what remains?

The hardware to think with.

[so here we are]

Perceptual continuity gives illusion of time. there is no time going by it is essentially still.

[so here we are]

 

 

 

 

 

[jjer94]

You're looking for answers with words when there are none. All of the answers are available to you in your direct experience. Don't listen to anything your thoughts tell you, and certainly don't listen to me. Just look in your direct experience.

Where is the mind in your direct experience? Does it even exist?

Where is the head in your direct experience? Does it even exist?

[Prabhaker]

On 2/10/2016 at 10:54 AM, charlie cho said:

Where Is The Mind?

If you watch, you will never come across any entity like mind. It is not a thing, it is just a process; it is not a thing, it is like a crowd. Individual thoughts exist, but they move so fast that you cannot see the gaps in between. The intervals cannot be seen because you are not very aware and alert, you need a deeper insight. When your eyes can look deep, you will suddenly see one thought, another thought, another thought -- but no mind.

Thoughts together, millions of thoughts, give you the illusion as if mind exists. It is just like a crowd, millions of people standing in a crowd: is there anything like a crowd? Can you find the crowd other than the individuals standing there? But they are standing together, their togetherness gives you the feeling as if something like a crowd exists -- only individuals exist.

Mind doesn't exist as an entity -- the is the first thing. Only thoughts exist.

The second thing: the thoughts exist separate from you, they are not one with your nature, they come and go -- you remain, you persist. You are like the sky: it never comes, it never goes, it is always there. Clouds come and go, they are momentary phenomena, they are not eternal. Even if you try to cling to a thought, you cannot retain it for long; it has to go, it has its own birth and death. Thoughts are not yours, they don't belong to you. They come as visitors, guests, but they are not the host.

If you get identified, you become the mind. If you get identified, you become the body.