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I'm boycotting the World Cup 2022

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I can't remember which french person said something like; this is the price we pay for sugar" referring to the Carribien sugar plantation. The point of the quote was to make people conscious of the human cost of our pleasure. Segway to the bigger picture- we are one year away from the planet's biggest party, the football world cup.
I'm also having Leo's latest video in mind about how brands exploit us, and how to break a company or an organization's hypnotic zombie spell of us. I'm a footyphile, a lover of the beautiful game, Football "soccer". Lately have the responsible organization been exploiting people's love for the game in various ways.FIFA, the organization that is responsible for many the logistical matters involving football has been giving the tournament to some questionable countries, such as Russia, Brazil, and South Africa. And a year from now is it going to be played in Qatar, where 6500 people have died since they've won the honour to host this world fest. Let me quote that nameless french person again " this is the price we pay for football". No thanks, I rather watch boule or ice-skating than legitimizing modern-day slavery. 

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I understand that point of view. I think that sports brings humanity together though, as with art, music, dance and spirituality.

 

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World cup is the only sport I watch.

But yeah... I understand why you'd want to boycott it. It is a super corrupt. FIFA is a grift.


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@Leo Gura well what about the 10 000 workers that died building infrastructure. That's 3 times the casualties of 9/11.

Hidden under the rug.

However there's no escaping the worldcup in EU. You should see what happens during public viewings... Beer is raining during goals. Incredible moments.

 

I just hope some big players will boycott it. 

Conscience vs culture.

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9 minutes ago, Endangered-EGO said:

well what about the 10 000 workers that died building infrastructure.

If you look deep enough, you will find horrible things in every industry you consume productions from. This is just part of how global stage Orange capitalism works.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it's hard to enjoy life if you insist on moral purity. You might as well move to the woods because any major corporation does evil stuff.


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@Leo Gura Yes I get it, but it's entertainment. The math doesn't add up, it's like 10 people a day are dying for 3 years, for the world cup to happen in rich middle eastern countries. We wilk have 3 months of entertainment for that.

It's completely unnecessary. Fuck Qatar. China would protect it's slave labors better than Quatar.

 

A lot of people don't buy nestle products because african workers have to live in poverty. 

Just compare it with annual US work related deaths per capita. The difference is insane.

 

Fifa, the apparent non-profit has no reason to cause that much damage for the world cup to take place in Qatar. I guess some people got paid a good amount of untraceable money.

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Yeah, but how many of those workers die when building non-FIFA projects? I think this is less of a FIFA problem then a problem with how construction is done in the Middle East. They have low standards across the board. These are not 1st world democracies. So you have to take that into account.

The reality is that life in 3rd world countries is pretty cheap. It's always been that way. That's how poverty works.


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@Leo Gura Okay, I get what you're saying. 

What we are doing by funding it is just accelerating the process of progess in Qatar. So the deaths are necessary for progress and either it happens fast or slow, but the damage stays the same.

 

However Qatar has the highest GDP per capita In the world and has the worst unequality of all. More infrastructure and progress isn't going to make progress in that region.

 

Every western country gives a shit about labor workers, and they ALL have less money for security than Qatar. So why make the worldcup in a country that is clearly owned by regressive ideological oligarchy. Do it in france. Do it in the US, russia or even china.

 

We just fund a small group of people that clearly don't have the same value as we do. Do we want the richest people that clearly don't give a shit to have even more power? No, and that's reason enough to boycott them.

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2 hours ago, Endangered-EGO said:

@Leo Gura However there's no escaping the worldcup in EU. You should see what happens during public viewings... Beer is raining during goals. Incredible moments.

Goddamn you people can be annoying. 

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2 hours ago, Endangered-EGO said:

@Leo Gura Okay, I get what you're saying. 

What we are doing by funding it is just accelerating the process of progess in Qatar. So the deaths are necessary for progress and either it happens fast or slow, but the damage stays the same.

Actually I didn't say that.

2 hours ago, Endangered-EGO said:

However Qatar has the highest GDP per capita In the world and has the worst unequality of all. More infrastructure and progress isn't going to make progress in that region.

Their GDP is artifically high due to oil profits and tiny population.

In practice it is still a stage Blue country in many ways.

2 hours ago, Endangered-EGO said:

Every western country gives a shit about labor workers, and they ALL have less money for security than Qatar.

Because Europe is stage Greenish.

2 hours ago, Endangered-EGO said:

So why make the worldcup in a country that is clearly owned by regressive ideological oligarchy. Do it in france. Do it in the US, russia or even china.

Cause FIFA is stage Orange.

2 hours ago, Endangered-EGO said:

We just fund a small group of people that clearly don't have the same value as we do. Do we want the richest people that clearly don't give a shit to have even more power? No, and that's reason enough to boycott them.

I got no problem with your position.

Boycott away.


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9 hours ago, Endangered-EGO said:

@Leo Gura Yes I get it, but it's entertainment. The math doesn't add up, it's like 10 people a day are dying for 3 years, for the world cup to happen in rich middle eastern countries. We wilk have 3 months of entertainment for that.

 

I agree with @Endangered-EGO, most of us "need" smartphones or clothes, so we are willing to accept that some factories have nets under their facilities to "save" people from suicides. But, we don't need FIFA or football, we might love it, and that makes the boycott more powerful. So, entertainment is basically the easiest way for consumers to protest. 

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I will never boycott soccer, I will never boycott the world cup, I love football too much to even read your post. 

soccer is the best sport & will always be the best. I could've made it myself but I fucked my chances.

I WILL NEVER LEAVE SOCCER, I AM MARRIED TO THE SPORT LOLOL.

The good of soccer imo outweighs the harm because even people with harsh lives in Brazil can come together & have love for the game, forget their poverty in playing the game in the heat since their childhood.

Depressed dads watch the sport & the world cup & the game bring some life into them, a new love for life is sparked, time slows down & feels eternal as you're watching messi score a goal that was somehow carved by god himself 

There is almost nothing more beautiful than watching messi or neymar score a goal in the world cup or champions league, the best of the best, it is a true showmanship of mastery, the game is truly a creative sport like no other, nothing will ever compare. 

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8 hours ago, ArcticGong said:

I agree with @Endangered-EGO, most of us "need" smartphones or clothes, so we are willing to accept that some factories have nets under their facilities to "save" people from suicides. But, we don't need FIFA or football, we might love it, and that makes the boycott more powerful. So, entertainment is basically the easiest way for consumers to protest. 

I'd probably have killed myself by now if football didn't exist, when I was a kid, that was the only thing that could make me happy.

Fifa is also an amazingly fun video game to play. You should try it out.

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18 hours ago, Endangered-EGO said:

However there's no escaping the worldcup in EU. You should see what happens during public viewings... Beer is raining during goals. Incredible moments.

Just for the record, there are people who dislike soccer as a spectator sport. I'm one of them. It is maybe awesome for you, but please do not count me in. I have nothing against football per se, but I despise this 'this is for everyone attitude'. What about those who don't care? Just leave me alone. Thank you for reading. Maybe some feel alike if I start rambling about politics ;)

@ArcticGong

I guess your criticism is valid, just because there is other evil in the world you don't have accept that in Fifa. If soccer is mad meaningful for you, start there, buddy :)

 

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@Striving for more  football gave me community, self-discipline and brotherhood, so I know what you are talking about. Many dysfunctional boys as I used to be, gets a good outlet for energy. And being around friends in a ordered setting is also good for youths.

Athletes can harness their talent with conscious action, and change culture, if there good enough. Muhammad Ali is an example but in a different sport. If Cristiano Ronaldo boycotts Qatar as he did with an advertisement gig he got from Saudi on the ground of human rights would would that really be an statement. Both FIFA and Qatar would work harder to ensure basic workers right.

 

https://www.dailysabah.com/sports/football/ronaldo-rejects-big-money-offer-to-promote-saudi-tourism-report

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