Do You Judge Looks?

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Shin said:

Concerning women with flat chest, well that would be lying to say a decent proportion of men like that.

But see... a woman doesn't need to attract a decent proportion of guys. She only needs to attract one right guy.

This is a common mistake Incels make too: they tend to believe that since they are not attractive to the majority of women, they cannot get laid well. But these two things are disconnected. You don't need to attract a majority of anyone. If you only attract 5% of people, that's enough to be happy.

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, IAmReallyImportant said:

I have drawn a connection with this post and thought this could be easily misunderstood by a female who think she is bad looking.

That post is even more innocent. That's literally just a biological fact of all living organisms who mate. Mating requires that you visually distinguish who is worthwhile to mate with and who is not. These distinctions are very complex and nuanced, including dozens of visual traits, shapes, colors, sizes, but also smell, taste, sounds, feel, vibe, energy, movement, behavior, etc.

You make it sound as if women are not choosy. Women are very choosy. More choosy then men.

I wish mating didn't involve a ruthless marketplace of choosiness. But it does. It's not like I am thrilled about that. I got rejected more times than most people will get rejected in 10 lifetimes. Sometimes it hurt like a motherfucker.

[RendHeaven]

2 hours ago, integral said:

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Another discussion of people convinced they understand attraction.

Its constructed, and you've lost the ability to rewire yourself. 

All preferences are constructed.

Ive never met a women i was not 100% physically attracted to and ready for. 

Notice the feelings that arise when watching this. Maybe disgust? That's a reflection of something you've rejected within yourself. Its shadow. Withholding love from yourself

Watch until you've re-contextualized your attraction. 

If everyone on the planet looked like that, thats what you would be attracted to. 

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Tips:

• Fantasies about having sex with her and loving the experience, make sure to properly manifest the emotions (physical sensation, excitement, anticipation, masculinity, her lust for you, your lust for her, she wants to be filled). Run a detailed emotional simulation. 

I intellectually agree with you but can't seem to "get it" on a feeling level.

Furthermore, I imagine that if by some miracle, I convince myself to find sexual attraction in all women indiscriminately, that will still all fly out the window the second someone conventionally attractive actually shows up in the flesh... even from mild states of no-self, on the level of sexuality I am biased (and this is perfectly fine).

I also wonder, if all preferences are constructed, why stop at women? Why don't you fuck men or animals?

And in fact, if we truly go meta, all sexual attraction at all is no different than any other desire, emotion, sensation, affinity, or inclination whatsoever. The idea of copulation dissolves into literal nothing. 

Weirdly, I'm more willing deconstruct "all the way" rather than to stop prematurely at imagining sexual preference to be unreal while maintaining that sexual attraction itself is still real.

Edited June 10, 2021 by RendHeaven

[integral]

10 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

And in fact, if we truly go meta, all sexual attraction at all is no different than any other desire, emotion, sensation, affinity, or inclination whatsoever. The idea of copulation dissolves into literal nothing. 

That's the trick, making new connections/associations between what your seeing and what your feeling. Explicit designed fantasizing creates these connections. Imagine having sex with a man or an animal with all the strong emotions. By practicing this it will slowly loosen the knobs that are currently tuned into "conventional attraction" for most. Ive done this training with chess, by masturbating to chess. All successfully. 

10 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

Weirdly, I'm more willing deconstruct "all the way" rather than to stop prematurely at imagining sexual preference to be unreal while maintaining that sexual attraction itself is still real.

Right but this is the relative/absolute mix up. We are keeping it relative, lets play the game of attraction and see how far we can push it. Then we can loosen the larger master knob that controls all other nobs. Maybe lol. Battle of attrition, one knob at a time. 

10 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

Furthermore, I imagine that if by some miracle, I convince myself to find sexual attraction in all women indiscriminately, that will still all fly out the window the second someone conventionally attractive actually shows up in the flesh

Yes conditioning. That fine, we are mostly a slave to it when the path ways that construct our conditioning are closed off. Can they be kept open or reopened? Loosening the knobs. 

Edited June 10, 2021 by integral

[RendHeaven]

2 hours ago, integral said:

masturbating to chess. All successfully. 

glorious