Life Sucks!

[SQAAD]

Life Sucks. End of story. 

 

[Zeroguy]

More milk kid. Life is awesome. 

[IAmReallyImportant]

Life sucks my dig. 

[Shin]

He makes really good points throughout the entire video.

However, labeling the experience of life as "it sucks" is not really helping and has a negative connotation.

If you have a victim mindset (opposed to growth mindset), you would take that message and use it to justify how mediocre your life is, and how it will always be, cause "life sucks".

If you change "life sucks" by "life has always new challenges", then it doesn't remove any of the deep spiritual truths he talked about, and is more accurate, cause life doesn't suck, it's just not meant to be always pleasant, that's not the same.

[SQAAD]

@Zeroguy

5 hours ago, Zeroguy said:

More milk kid. Life is awesome. 

Maybe it is awesome to you at this moment. But let's see how you will view life when you get old, suffer from illnesses or other life difficulties. 

[SQAAD]

@Shin

4 hours ago, Shin said:

He makes really good points throughout the entire video.

However, labeling the experience of life as "it sucks" is not really helping and has a negative connotation.

If you have a victim mindset (opposed to growth mindset), you would take that message and use it to justify how mediocre your life is, and how it will always be, cause "life sucks".

If you change "life sucks" by "life has always new challenges", then it doesn't remove any of the deep spiritual truths he talked about, and is more accurate, cause life doesn't suck, it's just not meant to be always pleasant, that's not the same.

I think it is appropriate to label life ''it sucks''. Since it is full of misery, injustice, survival struggles etc.

Living on this planet is not a walk in the park.  Life can become so unbearable at times that it's not even funny. I appreciate how profound life is but also i recognize all the brutal uncomfortable truths that noone wants to look closely. All the evil and devilry that goes on this planet. All the immense suffering that most people face. All the illnesses, pain, emotional & physical torture etc.

I don't mind giving negative connotations to things i don't like. I don't like being poor or being in pain. Nobody does.

Edited June 4, 2021 by SQAAD

[Consilience]

Does your life suck? Or can you recognize the divine bliss of heaven by sitting down and breathing? If you knew such bliss, even hardships, illnesses, and struggles will be contextualized and recognized as primordially perfect.

Speaking from someone who has a very difficult to manage illness that’s being exploited as a cash cow by the US pharmaceutical industry. Heaven is still available.

As the suffering increases, the harder such a view becomes, obviously. Stop focusing on the immensity of the suffering imo. You can’t change that. But you can change your own. This is, counterintuitively, the work needed to help alleviate the suffering of the world. 

[Thought Art]

Life can totally suck sometimes. My life has been I'd say, 80% suck and some good stuff too

[Shin]

2 hours ago, Consilience said:

Does your life suck? Or can you recognize the divine bliss of heaven by sitting down and breathing? If you knew such bliss, even hardships, illnesses, and struggles will be contextualized and recognized as primordially perfect.

Speaking from someone who has a very difficult to manage illness that’s being exploited as a cash cow by the US pharmaceutical industry. Heaven is still available.

As the suffering increases, the harder such a view becomes, obviously. Stop focusing on the immensity of the suffering imo. You can’t change that. But you can change your own. This is, counterintuitively, the work needed to help alleviate the suffering of the world. 

Don't focus on the negative, that's how it perpetuates.

Is what I'm saying.

[Willie]

9 minutes ago, Shin said:

Don't focus on the negative, that's how it perpetuates.

Is what I'm saying.

Focusing attention in either way is a biased perception and becomes delusion if one accepts that perception as truth.

[Shin]

4 minutes ago, Willie said:

Focusing attention in either way is a biased perception and becomes delusion if one accepts that perception as truth.

Maybe.

But one feels good and has hope and faith in it, which can result into peace.

The other doesn't.

[SQAAD]

@Consilience

16 hours ago, Consilience said:

Does your life suck? Or can you recognize the divine bliss of heaven by sitting down and breathing? If you knew such bliss, even hardships, illnesses, and struggles will be contextualized and recognized as primordially perfect.

Speaking from someone who has a very difficult to manage illness that’s being exploited as a cash cow by the US pharmaceutical industry. Heaven is still available.

 

Yes i agree with what you said. Life is a mixture of immense suffering and joy. There is always that Peace in the background, but sometimes the dream of life can become so unbearable that you just want a way out. 

I understand that suffering and pain are necessary but sometimes i wish they didn't exist to such a Radical degree. The suffering and pain can become so extreme that it's not even funny. 

Most people i know haven't truly suffered yet. I thought i had suffered in my life. But nope. The last 8 months i was introduced to a whole new level of suffering that shoock me to my core. I am still in awe of what happened.  I never expected that such level of extreme suffering could ever exist.  

Now thankfully i am back to normal and quite happy most of the time. But still it's like i have been traumatized by what i experienced. I will never be the same now knowing that this ridiculous level of suffering exists. And ofcourse now i have a LOT more compassion for people who suffer from depression, ptsd and etc.

Edited June 5, 2021 by SQAAD

[KaRzual]

@SQAAD Mind telling more about this suffering and what caused it? I'm really curious. 

Edited June 9, 2021 by KaRzual

[SQAAD]

@KaRzual

7 hours ago, KaRzual said:

@SQAAD Mind telling more about this suffering and what caused it? I'm really curious. 

Basically 8 months ago i had a trip that went horribly horribly horribly wrong. I mixed many LSA caps with Syrian rue and got a pretty unexpected strong Reaction. For two days straight i couldn't sleep and it felt like i was high permanently. 

This high wasn't though like a dopamine rush or something pleasurable. My perception had just shifted. It is like i was permanently enlightned (maybe i was) BUT after a certain point i didn't like it. I wanted things to be as they used to be before.

At the beginning , this shift in perception was very fine to my ego. It felt like an accomplishment. That i finally made the permanent breakthrough i was looking for.

But after 48 hours and lil to no sleep i began experiencng a Deep Existential Terror. An existential Terror that i never experienced before as i was grasping the radical consequences of Non-duality. I began feeling very nihilistic at times like nothing mattered. Whatever i decided to do seemed like a good idea. Dying seemed like a good idea. What i found was that this is death. I am already dead. 

When i grasped that i am already Dead, afterwards  Everything seemed like a good idea. All the social constraints that i had on myself didn't matter anymore. I was happy with whatever happening to my body. I just didn't care.

At this point i slowly began losing my mind. Insanity was a good way to escape from the unbearable truths that i was confronted. After a certain point i didn't like what non-duality was showing me. On one hand it was Beautiful but on the other hand it wasn't so good and so pleasant for my ego. I just wanted things to be as they were before. 

To keep it short. After all this, my behavior changed dramatically. I began shouting at friends, doing crazy sh*t that was out of my character (i didn't try to harm anyone though).  I just didn't care about anything. 

When my mind began deteriorating i couldn't find any difference between acting normal vs insane. As i said before, Everything seemed like a good idea at this point. Which is very crazy i know but from a certain perspective it's true also. This lack of discernment and care lead to a very unusual behavior that eventually lead to my arrest and i was sent to a mental hospital.  I was forced to stay for 3 weeks there. 

I was also forced to take medications that i DIDN'T want to take which was one of the worst things that could ever happen to me.

These 3 weeks there were extremely difficult for many many different reasons. At one point (in the very beginning) i was even strapped to a bed which was like torture for me. 

Anyways the stay in the mental asylym wasn't a walk in the park.  I had to be around people who i didn't want to be around.  Also I saw some pretty disturbing things in there.. A man who was in the same room with me was crying every day and talking things out before going to sleep. It was a pretty sad situation. Most people are never exposed to situations so sad and tragic.

 I coudn't use the internet, Cellphones were NOT allowed. It was basically like a prison. All i could do is walking, do some exercise, take showers and read. The times wasn't passing.  I didn't have many things to do. I couldn't even be near Nature, which was the biggest torture for me. Imagine that for 3 weeks you are limited to your house without any access outdoors.

Even after 3 weeks i didn't get used to it. Every day was like psychological torture.  I wanted to stay in bed for as long as i could so the time would pass easier. Some other patients also stayed in bed for like 12-14 hours a day because that was their only escape.

After i was released and went home,  things didn't get much better. Why? Because my body was kinda dependent on the medications while all i wanted was the  medications out of my life since i was very scared of the potential consquences & i didn't enjoy at all the way they made me feel.

 Moreover I couldn't quit cold-turkey because of potential heart implications.

It was a struggle to quit these terrible terrible drugs. After a month of cutting down the dosages i managed to quit safely. These drugs were so scary that while i was on them, i began experiencing memory losses and speech problems. That was super scary and left me even more depressed. My memory was always on point so you can imagine that this wasn't fun to experience at all.

While i was on these medications i felt very weird. Like a zombie. Like a dead souless man. I couldn't feel anything deeply. But there was a mild depression on the background always. When i stopped taking them, it took me like 2 weeks to feel normal again and the worst withdrawl i felt was a very deep and sudden depression. 

 I am talking about real depression. (Mind you i never experienced real depression before, i am always in quite a good mood). For the 1st time in my life i experienced what a true depression felt like. Nothing could make me happy and everything seemed pathetic and pointless. I was crying almost every day. I couldn't even watch a video on YouTube for 5 minutes straights. Didn't have the motivation to do it.

Nonetheless now i feel very good. It took me 3 months to fully recover and get my sh*t together. There was a lot of regret, shame, emotional trauma and etc because all of the stupid sh*t i did. I lost friends, i gained a ton of weight back & all of my progress with meditation, life purpose and etc was abruptly stopped and i had to kinda start all over again. This hurt a lot because before this trip i was in the best phase of my life ever. I was firing on all cylinders. And one stupid mistake cost me so much that it's was not even funny.

I am still shocked how a single mistake can cost you almost everything. It's insane. Not even in a hundreds years i thought something like this could happen to me. I am still angry at myself that i allowed such a stupid thing to happen. It's ridiculous how a 'lil' mistake can lead to months and months of misery and pain.

Thankfully i don't experience any serious lingering effects from all this that happened. But still it's painful because i lost friends, i lost months from my life, i had to re-start many healthy habits and i suffered tremendously like i never did before. This was by far the worst phase of my life. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, Especially the depression caused by stopping the medications was the worst.  What i wrote here is just a tiny fraction of all the misery i endured.

It was a stupid mistake and i payed very dearly for this stupidity. Noways i am much more cautious and wise. 

Edited June 9, 2021 by SQAAD