Why do you socialise?

[Danioover9000]

On 5/31/2021 at 7:12 PM, thisintegrated said:

Seems you've misunderstood something.

   I understand you are too afraid to have a conversation.

[thisintegrated]

6 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   I understand you are too afraid to have a conversation.

I did say I'm kind of "addicted" to conversation..

[Byun Sean]

ah i would encourage you to push yourself out of your comfort zone and socialize more.

 

You seem to have some fear behind it. Wherever there is fear it is possible to grow a space of love. 

 

There is certain growth you can only get through solo spiritual work. But consider there is certain growth you can only get from 

interacting with people.

 

[Steelheart]

@thisintegrated we here because we are social animals and we have a common interest in this forum. Personal development and understanding 

[thisintegrated]

8 hours ago, Byun Sean said:

ah i would encourage you to push yourself out of your comfort zone and socialize more.

 

You seem to have some fear behind it. Wherever there is fear it is possible to grow a space of love. 

As I said:

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I did say I'm kind of "addicted" to conversation..

I have TOO MUCH conversation!  I enjoy it, but it's nothing but a shallow dopamine hit!  No different to a recreational drug.  It brings me down to the intellect level.  There is nothing left to say.  Everything's been said.  But with nothing better to do, I just end up having these conversations!  Pointless conversations.

When I was but a young Yellow™, I debated/theorized constantly.  I enjoyed teaching & learning.  But I've now too much awareness to believe there's any point in this.  I only continue to do it for the dopamine hit.

 

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There is certain growth you can only get through solo spiritual work. But consider there is certain growth you can only get from 

interacting with people.

Other people are but an illusion.  It's just a belief.  You can only ever experience yourself.  I don't see how illusions/delusions can, in some way, be fundamental.  Useful, perhaps, but important? I think unlikely.

[thisintegrated]

29 minutes ago, Steelheart said:

@thisintegrated we here because we are social animals and we have a common interest in this forum. Personal development and understanding 

We're consciousness.

[Byun Sean]

12 hours ago, thisintegrated said:

Other people are but an illusion.  It's just a belief.  You can only ever experience yourself.  I don't see how illusions/delusions can, in some way, be fundamental.  Useful, perhaps, but important? I think unlikely.

yup there is spiritual growth directly related to people. It's called awakening of the heart.

 

I got supremely mindfucked by this because I too thought I could just max out my understanding of reality through solo spiritual work like meditation etc.

 

Here is the kicker I got. Take it how you will.

You can't speak from a position of absolute infinite consciousness because you are still constrained to your finite human form and all it's survival needs.

Yes you are God. But. Since you still operate from the POV of a fininite human creature in this 3d physical time space reality, you still have to play

by it's rules, the rules of survival, and your biases as a human.

 

Thus one of the major upsets most of us got as children was we were deeply hurt when we were young because we didn't receive the love and sensitivity we needed to grow into a completely open hearted being on our own naturally.

Thus we developed major blocks and wounds over our hearts. If you don't address these wounds through compassionate action for others

and feeling into your heart space more, they will stay there forever.

 

Believe me I tried. I had an awakening of the mind and hit a level of consciousness where I literally can't go further through meditation 

because I merged with presence itself.

But even in this state the blocks over my heart still remained.

 

But hey. If you think it's better for your growth to stay indoors and not talk to anyone that may also be just where your at in your journey. 

I've been there too. 

In the end whatever maximizes your spiritual growth is gonna be your best bet in the long term. But it's all person to person dependent 

so its ultimately up to you to decide.

 

 

Edited June 3, 2021 by Byun Sean

[thisintegrated]

8 hours ago, Byun Sean said:

yup there is spiritual growth directly related to people. It's called awakening of the heart.

 

I got supremely mindfucked by this because I too thought I could just max out my understanding of reality through solo spiritual work like meditation etc.

 

Here is the kicker I got. Take it how you will.

You can't speak from a position of absolute infinite consciousness because you are still constrained to your finite human form and all it's survival needs.

Yes you are God. But. Since you still operate from the POV of a fininite human creature in this 3d physical time space reality, you still have to play

by it's rules, the rules of survival, and your biases as a human.

 

Thus one of the major upsets most of us got as children was we were deeply hurt when we were young because we didn't receive the love and sensitivity we needed to grow into a completely open hearted being on our own naturally.

Thus we developed major blocks and wounds over our hearts. If you don't address these wounds through compassionate action for others

and feeling into your heart space more, they will stay there forever.

 

Believe me I tried. I had an awakening of the mind and hit a level of consciousness where I literally can't go further through meditation 

because I merged with presence itself.

But even in this state the blocks over my heart still remained.

 

But hey. If you think it's better for your growth to stay indoors and not talk to anyone that may also be just where your at in your journey. 

I've been there too. 

In the end whatever maximizes your spiritual growth is gonna be your best bet in the long term. But it's all person to person dependent 

so its ultimately up to you to decide.

I think you may be making some assumptions.

I understand love.  I went through the Green stage many years ago.  Since then, I've been a hyper-extrovert.  But a need for socialisation is a problem in itself.  If you feel a "need" for others, that's an indication of unresolved emotional issues.  Generally, anything you're emotionally "dependent" on is a problem.

It'll make sense one day, I was a Green myself, once.  You just, eventually, stop with the spiritual guru rhetoric, and start discovering things by yourself, at Yellow.  Answers such as "you just need to awaken your heart" no longer seem satisfactory, and debates require actual reasoning.  But no rush, you'll get there!

 

..sorry, had to.  But one of my pet peeves is lectures from Greens who believe they're Turquoise.  (I'm very sensitive to Yellowness, or its lack of, so those who dismiss it in Yellow discussions are a bit ..hard to deal with).

Edited June 4, 2021 by thisintegrated

[integral]

On 5/30/2021 at 11:00 PM, thisintegrated said:

I didn't need to make this thread, I only did so out of pure stupidity and ego!

I didn't need to breath, I only did so out of pure stupidity and ego!

[thisintegrated]

39 minutes ago, integral said:

I didn't need to breathe, I only did so out of pure stupidity and ego!

That's something you're hardwired to do.  Something you need to not die.  Pointless conversations are, however, different.

I needed to make this thread about just as much as I needed to smoke some weed!

Why should I?!  Y-You're not my mom!

 

Damn it, man!  You've made me go digging for it!  Edit: Found it!

Edited June 4, 2021 by thisintegrated

[universe]

On 31.5.2021 at 5:00 AM, thisintegrated said:

Everything is perfect.

Yes

On 31.5.2021 at 5:00 AM, thisintegrated said:

Conversation can only bring you down.

Conversation is perfect as well. And if it happens to bring you down, well that is perfect, too. 

[RendHeaven]

You're on your journey. These are good questions

[Byun Sean]

On 6/3/2021 at 4:54 PM, thisintegrated said:

Generally, anything you're emotionally "dependent" on is a problem.

this right here says it all.

On 6/3/2021 at 4:54 PM, thisintegrated said:

It'll make sense one day, I was a Green myself, once.  You just, eventually, stop with the spiritual guru rhetoric, and start discovering things by yourself, at Yellow.  Answers such as "you just need to awaken your heart" no longer seem satisfactory, and debates require actual reasoning.  But no rush, you'll get there!

Your answer is filled with closed heartedness and ego which screams how underdeveloped you are.

[Javfly33]

To have fun, grow myself, and distraction.

It all depends on the intention and your consciousness of what you are doing it.