Why Is Not Going To College A Strategic Blunder?

[TeenVisionary98]

So in Leo's, "How to be a Strategic Motherfucker" video, one of the strategic blunders he mentions in not going to college. I was curious as to why this is. I'm currently in high school but also on the final lap of getting my Associates Degree through a dual credit program. Since finishing the Life Purpose course, I've been focused on developing the skills and habits needed to take me to where I want to go. The thing is, working towards a 4-year diploma (which my mom encourages) doesn't seem beneficial to me other than building strong study habits and receiving credentials. I understand the strong study habits part, but I feel you can develop those on your own in pursuing your individual goals. As for the credentials in having a diploma, if you develop your craft enough to the point where the world sees the value you offer, what's the point in having a diploma in the first place?

In my mind, this would make not going to college a strategic blunder in circumstances where you need certain credentials in order to be qualified in your given field. Yet, I know Leo is very wise and talks about stuff he has really studied. What do you all think?

[Prabhaker]

6 hours ago, TeenVisionary98 said:

What do you all think?

Education is very insufficient, incomplete, superficial. It only creates people who can earn their livelihood but it does not give any insight into living itself. It is not only incomplete, it is harmful too – because it is based on competition.

Any type of competition is violent deep down, and creates people who are unloving. Their whole effort is to be the achievers: of name, of fame, of all kinds of ambitions – obviously, they have to struggle and be in conflict for them. That destroys their joys and that destroys their friendliness. It seems everybody is fighting against the whole world.

Every child is born intelligent, then made stupid by the society. We educate him in stupidity. Sooner or later he graduates in stupidity.

[Live Life Liam]

7 hours ago, TeenVisionary98 said:

So in Leo's, "How to be a Strategic Motherfucker" video, one of the strategic blunders he mentions in not going to college. I was curious as to why this is. I'm currently in high school but also on the final lap of getting my Associates Degree through a dual credit program. Since finishing the Life Purpose course, I've been focused on developing the skills and habits needed to take me to where I want to go. The thing is, working towards a 4-year diploma (which my mom encourages) doesn't seem beneficial to me other than building strong study habits and receiving credentials. I understand the strong study habits part, but I feel you can develop those on your own in pursuing your individual goals. As for the credentials in having a diploma, if you develop your craft enough to the point where the world sees the value you offer, what's the point in having a diploma in the first place?

In my mind, this would make not going to college a strategic blunder in circumstances where you need certain credentials in order to be qualified in your given field. Yet, I know Leo is very wise and talks about stuff he has really studied. What do you all think?

I'm still technically in the system too but since I live alone I have more of a choice what I decide to do. It must be frustrating following a path you don't want and I understand you. Well before I can answer that you should respond to these two questions:

• What is your life purpose?
• How do you want to live your life? (life plan) 

Until you know them both in detail you can't really make the right choices. Most people go into college or university with no idea what they want to do. Figure out what your focus in life is and we can help you out more. What I would say is that if you don't have a clue what you want to do then college is idiotic unless its free of course which it isn't in places like the US.

Edited November 7, 2016 by Live Life Liam

[TeenVisionary98]

@Live Life Liam I've got my vision locked down and have been working towards that daily. The only reason I'm hesitating in continuing my college education after I finish high school is because, apparently, it's a strategic blunder.  Like I said, Leo usually knows what he's talking about, but something tells me that I should spend my energy and time on developing my skills and researching rather than pursuing more general knowledge. 

 

20 hours ago, Prabhaker said:

Education is very insufficient, incomplete, superficial. It only creates people who can earn their livelihood but it does not give any insight into living itself. It is not only incomplete, it is harmful too – because it is based on competition.

Any type of competition is violent deep down, and creates people who are unloving. Their whole effort is to be the achievers: of name, of fame, of all kinds of ambitions – obviously, they have to struggle and be in conflict for them. That destroys their joys and that destroys their friendliness. It seems everybody is fighting against the whole world.

Every child is born intelligent, then made stupid by the society. We educate him in stupidity. Sooner or later he graduates in stupidity.

 

I feel like your using "education" to describe how some public school systems work. Educating yourself in whatever field you seek to pursue is necessary  if you want to create an impact in this world. 

[Prabhaker]

2 minutes ago, TeenVisionary98 said:

if you want to create an impact in this world. 

What for ? Is going to college necessary ?

[TeenVisionary98]

If you plan on entering a profession, such as medicine, law, science...then yes. But otherwise, I could imagine that you could acquire the necessary knowledge and discipline habits on your own.

 

However, I don't want to say to myself 10 years from now that I should've gone to college, for whatever strategic reason.  

[Prabhaker]

4 minutes ago, TeenVisionary98 said:

I should've gone to college

College don't produce Beethoven, Mozart, Einstein, Thomas Alva Edison, Vincent van gogh, Usain bolt, Bill Gates !

[Key Elements]

At some points in my life, I had the same questions as you. You don't have to go full fledge into college if you don't want to. You may want to take a course or two according to your vision / interests. Maybe at the same time, start to work part-time while doing a channel / startup. You may want to explore different areas to see which ones work out for you and go with that.

[BHL_20]

23 hours ago, Prabhaker said:

College don't produce Beethoven, Mozart, Einstein, Thomas Alva Edison, Vincent van gogh, Usain bolt, Bill Gates !

Einstein had a college degree.

 

On 11/8/2016 at 5:22 AM, TeenVisionary98 said:

@Live Life Liam I've got my vision locked down and have been working towards that daily. The only reason I'm hesitating in continuing my college education after I finish high school is because, apparently, it's a strategic blunder.  Like I said, Leo usually knows what he's talking about, but something tells me that I should spend my energy and time on developing my skills and researching rather than pursuing more general knowledge. 

I think the reason Leo says it's a strategic blunder is because of his personal experiences with college. Leo has mentioned a few times that he majored in philosophy, which probably had a huge influence on his current way of thinking and seeing the world. I don't think it's so much that college helped him develop technical skills. Take that as you will.

[Live Life Liam]

55 minutes ago, BHL_20 said:

Einstein had a college degree.

 

I think the reason Leo says it's a strategic blunder is because of his personal experiences with college. Leo has mentioned a few times that he majored in philosophy, which probably had a huge influence on his current way of thinking and seeing the world. I don't think it's so much that college helped him develop technical skills. Take that as you will.

Look I've just come from a very interesting event where I got to meet amazing Entrepreneurs, self employed artists and employees and the first thing I asked all of them was about this issue. Surprisingly a lot agreed that mainstream education is only for 50% of the population and the other half should find there own path. 

Personally I'd say be unique and take that risk. There is nothing better then standing out from the crowd in career and life purpose but what I will say is it depends if you have a plan or not. Don't make a choice unless your definite what you want in life.

For me my plan is to change the system not work inside it so it's up to you.

Much love to you all

Edited November 9, 2016 by Live Life Liam

[Live Life Liam]

10 hours ago, BHL_20 said:

Einstein had a college degree.

 

I think the reason Leo says it's a strategic blunder is because of his personal experiences with college. Leo has mentioned a few times that he majored in philosophy, which probably had a huge influence on his current way of thinking and seeing the world. I don't think it's so much that college helped him develop technical skills. Take that as you will.

Not everyone is built for the schooling system and like Einstein said "everybody is a genius but if you judge a fish by it's ability to climb a tree is just going to live his entire life believing he is stupid".

I have a goal to end insecurity in others as I don't want to see people suffer like this anymore. I think we need to stop making education about just getting people jobs and focus on individuals.

To inspire the young to bring a positive influence in the world using there unique skills should be prime not just making them compete for silly pieces of paper. 

For a lot of people school actual sucks out the dreams of many so they only go for mediocrity because it can make you feel unworthy then others. 

Just my opinion but we need to radically open our minds as a collective to new ways of schooling. 

 

Edited November 9, 2016 by Live Life Liam

[Elisabeth]

On 7. 11. 2016 at 3:19 AM, TeenVisionary98 said:

In my mind, this would make not going to college a strategic blunder in circumstances where you need certain credentials in order to be qualified in your given field. Yet, I know Leo is very wise and talks about stuff he has really studied. What do you all think?

I think, for most people, college buys them more time to build foundation. You will probably still be partly supported by your parents, which can be good or bad, but is giving you more time to study the things you are being tought in college, the things you just want to study, and the things you encounter as a byproduct (like interesting people or hobbies). I think, that Leo says it's a blunder not to go to college, because most people who decide to skip it close their opportunities to support themselves financially and otherwise - they just take on a job and here they are, a lot of the free time they could have had to educate themselves is gone. 

If you choose a major that is interesting to you for the subject itself, not a for the money or social credit it can give you, you will benefit from getting a broad view over a subject, which may transfer to all areas of life. Now, I think there are two possible approaches: I have studied physics, which is directly necessary for building my carrier. I am glad to have a broad background and stable base in my subject. Or, you could choose something that is actually complementary to your carrier. I imagine even one year of some good social science studies will transform your worldview. In general, I find that dwelling deep into more then one subject (and more then one subculture) in life is extremely beneficial.

I'm not saying you have to choose college. College could also hinder you by feeding you some paradigm you in fact do not want, although I think it's not that likely in your case. You say you already know what you want to do, and that is great (maybe you're even ahead of me despite being 10 years younger, so my advice is totally misplaced :)). I think the only danger you run into by starting right away is going full steam into this one direction just to find out it's not it and then having greater difficulty changing track. (If you look at Leo, he change his carrier not once but three times, right? It happens.) I think at your age it is extremely likely that your direction will still change, so I guess my conclusion is: study something general, work on something specific. Or maybe... just don't close your options, you know? Make an agreement with your mom that you'll work for a year now on whatever you see as your life pourpose now, and see how that feels. If you find yourself immersed in the specifics lossing the big picture? Go to college next year.

[Zane]

I'm focusing on aligning my major with my life purpose! My deepest passion is creating and telling stories and writing poetry and I chose to major in English but also balance purpose with practicality rather than major in Business, Science, or Math just because it's "practical." I'm using my major to my advantage by looking into teaching programs when I graduate particularly programs that pay good starting salaries. To use my storytelling and passion to my full advantage, I'm starting to get involved in public speaking particularly through my Capstone presentation and by open mic poetry and by acting. 

Edited November 9, 2016 by Zane

[Rocky]

In my opinion it is and it isnt, im a freshman studying mechatronics and so far i can only see the Programming, dynamics, statics electronics  being useful, but i also have to study a load of other useless crap that serves little purpose such as communications, personal development ( but in this class they teach us stuff we already know), and a load of other useless crap with assignments that come along with it, on top of that theres so much theory which of course its useful to understand how circuits and etc work but i 'll  never have to draw a circuit and use mathematics skills to calculate voltage, resistance and etc when there is already software and hardware that reads it for you. The same with maths, there's  very little that i 'll  use out of the syllabus for maths that they teach.

The issue is is that if i did an apprenticeship or worked my way up without a degree i think that companies would pay me less.

[Elisabeth]

On 10. 12. 2016 at 1:22 AM, Rocky said:

...theres so much theory which of course its useful to understand how circuits and etc work but i 'll  never have to draw a circuit and use mathematics skills to calculate voltage, resistance and etc when there is already software and hardware that reads it for you. The same with maths, there's  very little that i 'll  use out of the syllabus for maths that they teach.

Be careful there. If you happen to stay in the field you study, you may one day find out that all those differential equations come useful. You may have to reprogram one of these softwares to add a custom cirquit element. (Or you'll meet some older collegue who does all of this from the top of his head before you can even pull out your notebook and you will be seriously embarrased ;))

I started phd and I'm quite surprised about how all the knowledge they had been trying to teach us throughout my years of study bit by bit in different subjects comes together sometimes, stuff emerging which I thought unimportant.