Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mivafofa said: @EntheogenTruthSeeker Ok what... is your point exactly? Leo has already went through all of these points and accusations countless times, in forms of warning signs, disclaimers and beware, misuses, careful not to misinterpret or twist. And you're literally doing all of it lol. If anyone is aware of his shortcoming, it's certainly himself. Not you. Or anyone else. It's easy to point fingers at the teacher when things goes wrong for you. And so ungrateful. You speak as if you play no role on your own short-comings. With your current state of mind, maybe what you need right now is not spiritual and psyche teaching, but an actual psychologist for you're well being. I mean seeing what you've been through, clearly smthg went wrong in the application. And at this point neither Leo nor any other guru can help you in this. seek therapy and psychologists ? ? ? Edited May 28, 2021 by The0Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, ivankiss said: It's one thing to disagree with someone and another to demonize them. I'm sorry you went through that struggle. I can kinda relate. But I would not blame Leo or anyone else for it. It's hard to blame when you see it's been you, all along. Leo definitely has his shortcomings. And so do we all. We should not be demonizing each other because of that. Amen. Love Is The Answer: LSD Awakening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, kieranperez said: Lol always gotta wrap a point around “me” ? what a joke dude. Kinda funny how this whole point went from how concerned you were about the repercussions of what Leo is saying into some spiritual duck measuring contest. Lets get one thing straight dude. There is no historical evidence that Christ ever even existed as a historical person. None. There are rumors and stories about potentially going to India bear Kashmir and practiced yoga and that’s really about it. Not even the Gnostics take Jesus to be a historical person but rather as an archetypal figure. There is no doubt that many Christians have revelatory experiences like “Born again expirences” which are around a sort of kensho/satori or even just Arising & Passing Away experience. The very narcissistic way in which you arrogantly are emphasizing “I” in all of these statements is just like an emperor walking around completely unaware he’s completely naked. It’s just silly. I don’t agree with Leo’s stance on psychedelics and his arrogance (which I appreciate he owns as it’s a common thing for very intellectual people, myself included in that) can get a little redundant in my opinion. That said, mystical experiences (which are not enlightenment) that are interpreted at ethnocentric Christian stages of development are not only doing the world no favor in that, it’s also shooting itself in the foot as they fail to adapt and acknowledge the genuine legitimacy found in all traditions, lineages, and paths. Christ or God for many traditionalist Christians is just an indoctrinated mental form that becomes the basis of ones super ego that often become so repressive and detrimental to one’s mental health and sanity that it becomes utterly toxic. There is no doubt some legitimacy for those that have had some revelatory experience, which is why I can sympathize on why they don’t want to give that up. That said, Christians don’t have it all together. As obvious that really should be this day in age for those living in the modern world. The reality is though, there is no God or Christ that is other than you. If you think you’re still separate from the Christ’s Consciousness, you don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s just more forms for your mind to hold onto. Also, regarding your comment on jerking off. Do you realize the states in the say the United States that have the highest rates of porn addiction are always states that tend to represent Christianity the most? UTAH, those Mormon mofos they wear the undergarments that look like they belonged to Benjamin Franklins grandmother that go on cult missions to preach the teachings of Jesus to people in third world countries and say “Ah FUDGE!” instead of “fuck” are the ones that beat it off the most. Other states right behind them are Bible Belt states like Missouri, Kansas, Arkansas, etc. At least Leo is honest about jerking off rather than being some enlightened guy that teaches brahmacharya and, when the cameras are not rolling, are sexually abusing their students just like what goes on in many Christian churches where pastors eat 9 year choir boy cock for breakfast. Give me a break dude. To be Christian does not mean to be around Christians or to be in a church or a church state. It means to find Christ and trust in his timeless teaching. Where to find Christ? Well he has told us: look under a rock and you will find me. Mind over Matter, Awareness over Mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 @kieranperez dude. Thank you. I love you! Love Is The Answer: LSD Awakening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 @mivafofa I fully agree. I forgive myself for the ignorance of this thread. Pure victim and low conscious projection. Praise the lord. Love Is The Answer: LSD Awakening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 @EntheogenTruthSeeker 4 minutes ago, EntheogenTruthSeeker said: @kieranperez dude. Thank you. I love you! That was a great fucking response from him, wasn’t it! ❤️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, EntheogenTruthSeeker said: @mivafofa I fully agree. I forgive myself for the ignorance of this thread. Pure victim and low conscious projection. Praise the lord. There is a good side to this thread.. It's justified in my view as Leo once laughed that Jesus is imaginary, but then Jesus' points us to the self that can not be imagined. ? Mind over Matter, Awareness over Mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, EntheogenTruthSeeker said: @mivafofa I fully agree. I forgive myself for the ignorance of this thread. Pure victim and low conscious projection. Praise the lord. Wow your mind is open! Just keep on doing what you’re doing man. ❤️ Edited May 28, 2021 by The0Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dodo said: There is a good side to this thread.. It's justified in my view as Leo once laughed that Jesus is imaginary, but then Jesus' points us to the self that can not be imagined. ? But so does Leo point to it... and Leo is imaginary... you see? ? Tell me you see that!? This is big. Edited May 28, 2021 by The0Self Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The0Self said: But so does Leo point to it... and Leo is imaginary... you see? ? Tell me you see that!? This is big. Oh yeah! I see it. I am not going to judge Leo ♌ nor anyone else. You are doing the same thing too. But there is something to be said about showing Humility and understand that what Jesus did is in the consciousness of so many beings here right now. The cross itself is a teaching. Satan used it for torturing , but unfortunately for him, this code is awakening many beings to the Truth, without having to plug psychedelics. The ultimate trojan horse Edited May 28, 2021 by Dodo Mind over Matter, Awareness over Mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) Yeah personally here too I had a suicide attempt due to disassociation from his teachings. His teachings taught about death and getting rid of the ego, and I did just that, only to get super disassociated and ungrounded. I tapped super into the spiritual world because of this and attracted demonic spirits which lead me to feeling like I had no other choice besides suicide. After 9 months of trying to recover from the energetic damage that I've done to myself I'm still healing and dealing with some of these issues, and with the help of angels, I will be saved. Also I do agree Leo is arrogant and rude to people on this forum and makes assumptions about people before even knowing them. Edited May 28, 2021 by DreamScape Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) The problems with the psych wards and whatnot I do not think is because of Leo's teaching even. More like a bigger "entity" which believes it knows more than Jesus/Leo/Self. Any label causes more confusion and possibility for egoic interpretation. But government by definition can't find the True self, only the parts of it can,.. Edited May 28, 2021 by Dodo Mind over Matter, Awareness over Mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, Dodo said: The cross itself is a teaching. Satan used it for torturing , but unfortunately for him, this code is awakening many beings to the Truth, without having to plug psychedelics. The ultimate trojan horse ? Sounds like a beautiful view! (Not saying it’s a dream.) ❤️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The0Self said: ? Sounds like a beautiful view! (Not saying it’s a dream.) ❤️ Yes its important not to take this with egoic mind and run, we need to marry direct experience with that pesky illusion of time. Somehow someway, it could be the same thing. I can see coordinates in my mind's eye. I have no understanding what it is or why its there. Might be imagining it, but hey, "they say" we imagine everything! when I say they, it is us who says it Edited May 28, 2021 by Dodo Mind over Matter, Awareness over Mind Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 6 minutes ago, Dodo said: Yes its important not to take this with egoic mind and run, we need to marry direct experience with that pesky illusion of time. Somehow someway, it could be the same thing. I can see coordinates in my mind's eye. I have no understanding what it is or why its there. Might be imagining it, but hey, "they say" we imagine everything! when I say they, it is us who says it There is no experience here. This is not the time and place to worry about that though. You’re on a roll ? ❤️ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 56 minutes ago, The0Self said: But so does Leo point to it... and Leo is imaginary... you see? ? Tell me you see that!? This is big. best point on this thread, no cap homie! Love Is The Answer: LSD Awakening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 Ask yourself if maybe your ego just found another role to play, when you talk about how miserable your life is and how important you were, when you were guarded in the hospital. Luckily everyone can criticize at this forum, nobody will hold you back. But the way you articulate yourself really shows your damaged ego trying to survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 50 minutes ago, DreamScape said: Yeah personally here too I had a suicide attempt due to disassociation from his teachings. His teachings taught about death and getting rid of the ego, and I did just that, only to get super disassociated and ungrounded. I tapped super into the spiritual world because of this and attracted demonic spirits which lead me to feeling like I had no other choice besides suicide. After 9 months of trying to recover from the energetic damage that I've done to myself I'm still healing and dealing with some of these issues, and with the help of angels, I will be saved. Also I do agree Leo is arrogant and rude to people on this forum and makes assumptions about people before even knowing them. please message me. this entire thread was all worth it for you to open up and say that. I appreciate you reading and relating. life is hard. and Leos teachings are very dangerous to vulnerable people, they are very advanced and can be very ungrounded and intellectual. yet are still good. Love Is The Answer: LSD Awakening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 @Vynce I fully agree and am open to what you said. I am not perfect by any means. and I look to Jesus to be that perfection. I pray to die on the cross one day in the name of Jesus if that is possible. I just want to be. that's my highest vision. I am an extrovert and am developing psychic like abilities to socialize with gentleness like Jesus. its truly a gift and talent he gave me, so I am going to be a motivational speaker anywhere I go and not bring god into it if that is what god is calling me to say to the person. praise the lord! thank you! I love you! Love Is The Answer: LSD Awakening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted May 28, 2021 watch this video you silly fuck let go ! <3 love you! Can you bite your own teeth? -- “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites