How do you know that psychedelic-induced insights are not more delusion?

[BipolarGrowth]

Everything is Delusion. 
 

Your regard for normal states of consciousness and paradigms is your effort to latch onto the dying material life. You’re tasting Infinity. Hydrate yourself. 

[The0Self]

When nothing is left, there isn't anything left to be deluded or confused about.

[TDLH]

I think some people are getting confused with the word formlessness.

Nothingness, the Void, or whatever you relate to is absolute stillness, no motion, no energy in action, no thought, no consciousness or awareness. It is absolute zero.

Formlessness, on the other hand, can have two meanings, or possibly more.  Formlessness is sometimes referred to as a dream state that has not materialized, or it can be referred to where no patterns, shapes, or designs are created or exist, which could be interpreted as nothingness!

Having said that, patterns, shapes and gestalts of thoughts, ideas, images, beliefs, emotion, energy, sensation and non-physical textures etc., are “formed” within the ocean of consciousness, or what some people refer to as the dream states, or realities that have not materialized in to physical matter as we know it. 

Think of consciousness as energy in action, thoughts in motion etc.  Consciousness is an ocean of energy, which allows thoughts, ideas, images, belief, emotions, sensations etc. to “form” into patterns, to form into psychic gestalts of energy, to form into electrical patterns, blue prints of beingness etc.

These “forms” of energy are one with everything, they exist within consciousness, they are all interconnected and interrelated, and yet they “create” an invisible independence or identity that purposely forms gradations of intensities and densities that simulate invisible, non-existing boundaries to purposely experience “forms” of beingness, separate and yet “one” with absolute consciousness.

Do not get forms, patterns, or shapes that exist in the dream states confused with objects within the material reality of physical matter, time and space. 

Forms, patterns or shapes of energy, thought, ideas, etc., are “Not Formed” in “time and space”. They are formed within gradations of energy densities, densities within densities within intensities, which do not take up time or space as we know it.

These units of conscious psychic gestalts of energy, thought etc. eventually get so intense and focused that they burst into physical matter, creating infinite fractals of “physical” conscious units of beingness.

Consciousness is an absolute ocean of independent psychic energy gestalts, which cooperate to create infinite forms of non-physical and physical realities that are truly independent, yet interconnected and interrelated, forms of “Real” “Beingness”.

Just sharing a few thoughts, ideas and beliefs!

Edited May 22, 2021 by TDLH

[Adamq8]

@TDLH That was really profound and does indeed make sense alot! Thanks ?

 

[Adamq8]

@Salvijus Cheers ?

[Leo Gura]

Nothingness = Formless = Form = Something = Everything = Void

Void is right here, right now. Your ass is the Void even while it looks like an ass.

[The0Self]

@Leo Gura Best pointer based on my experience seems to just be "no separation." Once you trip (or maybe a few can do it sober) with enough awakening, the experience will be of "no separation." Infinity is zero is you is me is everything is this is God is Love.

[Jungian_Proxy]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The only real shit is this present moment. Here it is. Absolute Truth.

You are looking for your glasses all over your house, but they are on your face.

Until you understand that, you will never find your glasses.

 

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

It is not necessary on psychedelics because your consciousness will cut right through all form and formless alike to grasp Oneness, Truth, God, and Love.

This is a direct contradiction.

If "absolute truth" is inherent in the present moment (with which I agree), then by definition it is there in any moment.

Meaning the situations of someone sitting there drunk, someone sitting there high on DMT and someone sitting there sober are exactly the same as far as the amount of "truth" to be found in them is concerned.

Therefore, whatever the subjective experience of an individual on drugs may be, it is not closer to truth than any other experience.

[BipolarGrowth]

14 hours ago, Jungian_Proxy said:

 

This is a direct contradiction.

If "absolute truth" is inherent in the present moment (with which I agree), then by definition it is there in any moment.

Meaning the situations of someone sitting there drunk, someone sitting there high on DMT and someone sitting there sober are exactly the same as far as the amount of "truth" to be found in them is concerned.

Therefore, whatever the subjective experience of an individual on drugs may be, it is not closer to truth than any other experience.

Being conscious of the Truth is not the same as being the Truth. Everyone and everything is Absolute Truth, but not everyone and everything is conscious of what Absolute Truth is and how the process works. If you’re white, you’re who’re whether you’ve seen someone of other races or not, but you also aren’t white. The physical support for that understanding is designed into your DNA, but only with becoming conscious of greater context and understanding of what is the case already, there are other races, can allow for the subjective experience of being conscious of what being white is because you’re conscious that race now can exist. 
 

There’s a difference between Pi being 3.14 and being conscious of it. 
 

Yes, everything is the same level of Truth. But there are far different levels of accuracy in understanding the meta mechanics of Truth.