How to eradicate sensation of Self - Consciousness : MY MOST IMPORTAN QUESTION EVER

[Striving for more]

Examples :

Struggling to freely do my power poses, affirmations, (Elliot Hulse) Trauma Release, because I know neighbours or Family or the public may  hear or see. 

Saying hi & flirting with a girl on the train, but there's a carriage full of people

 

Relates to power of letting Go vid : If I regularly let it go ... Can I get to the point where eventually the sensation doesn't even appear in the first place & I honestly wouldn't feel 0 amount of embarrassment if say I did some Elliot Hulse Trauma Release on a train or something like that, a completely energetically care- free man

 

I'm just realising how much my life has been stunted due to this. And I'm even slightly less conscious than the average Joe now, who is literally mentally Imprisoned by his self - consciousness & how life is constrained by this ...

But still I am also imprisoned by it to a large degree. 

So what's the best way or combination of methods ... How quickly can I get to this permanent carefree state?

 

[Death_]

@Striving for more The thing is that there is no shortcuts and there is no best way to get to that "permanent carefree state".

I recommend to be more patient.

[Striving for more]

34 minutes ago, Death_ said:

@Striving for more The thing is that there is no shortcuts and there is no best way to get to that "permanent carefree state".

I recommend to be more patient.

I never asked for shortcuts? 

But often times there is a best way to do many things, or at least a better way. 

I don't see how this comment is useful. How long it takes is not the point of this post. 

[Death_]

@Striving for more Okay, So what are you currently doing to achieve what you want to achieve?

[NoSelfSelf]

Master your emotions through spirituality thats the way other stuff can work..key is emotion is stopping you manipulating you so thats the source detach from logic go to the emotions..

[caspex]

Imo this is fairly simple, but tedious. First of all you need to make a distinction that you aren't actually feeling 'the self' in such situations, what you are feeling, is a feeling, a bodily one and mentally ones sometimes.

Now, to be carefree would be like to that feeling to not arise in the first place, but to make that happen, your body and mind need to know that the situation you are in isn't bad for your survival. How do you let your mind and body know that? Through experience and practice. So you slowly open yourself up and do more and more of these things that you find hard to do in public, and eventually you'll become carefree. So you just gotta take baby steps. And please don't cause inconvenience to others like shouting loudly or some stuff like that on the metro to 'test your shyness'. You could, but you also can do other things that benefit others and also you. Like maybe playing an instrument in the public, dancing, singing, or giving compliments to people, etc. 

Overall, don't beat yourself up over this(if you are). This is normal and just requires some practice and opening up. No need to judge yourself or these feelings for coming up. It's like your emotions is a small baby doing what it thinks is best for itself, would be pretty heartless of you to judge the baby for being stupid and beat it. 

[JonasVE12]

You shouldn't see it as a state to achieve. Rather a practice of release (shame, fear and apathy) that leads to full embodiment and natural paremanent letting go.

I've written some pointers in this thread. You may find it helpful. they surely apply well to your situation.

The basic idea is that you want to observe the relationship between tension and groundedness/connection to your body. Observe those tension provoking situations and slowly step into them until they become natural. Relax your body in the proces and open your heart in those situations. Feel your heart chakra and practice opening and relaxing it. Relax your pelvis and the back of your legs as well. Feel like a tree drawing lightning into the ground. Ground your energy into the earth. Feel one with the ground under you. Relax your whole body.

Eventually, you'll feel energy moving more smoothly through your body and the mind relaxes naturally. That self conscious feeling is an energy blockage that draws your energy up your head, thus the analysing and self consciousness. It's mostly conditioned shame. Release that by connecting with the body and the energy moves more unobstructed through you, making room for that authentic light to shine through you, welcoming new found levels of confidence and carefreeness that previously were hidden from you.

If you become ungrounded saying 'hi', relax into that tension

If you become ungrounded singing out loud on the street and people stare at you, relax into that

If you become ungrounded doing weird moves on the street and people stare, relax into that

Do crazy social freedom exercises and relax into that tension. Do very stupid embarassing things but relax into it, and you'll feel no embaressment what so ever.

Walk on the street barefoot, and ask strangers if they saw someone passing who carried shoes. Tell them that someone just stole yours. Relax into that. 

The key is this: Confront tension all the time and never stop doing it. Do it for months. Let facing tension become a part of your life. And so it becomes natural and you will be grounded and relaxed in any situation. Everytime face higher levels of tension. There becomes a moment where everything shifts. Your body adapts permanently. Emotions that have been there hidden for so long just release beautifully. 

 

Edited May 21, 2021 by JonasVE12

[Leo Gura]

21 hours ago, Striving for more said:

How quickly can I get to this permanent carefree state?

This would be like the pinnacle of this work.

Don't expect it to come quickly or easily.

The desire to achieve a permanent carefree state will itself backfire and create lots of suffering as you will always be upset that, "Why am I not in a carefree state yet?" This can actually make you very miserable and depressed.

So the solution here is to pursue awakening and liberation, BUT for fuck's sake, enjoy the journey and don't wait to be happy. Be happy now, regardless of whatever shit is imperfect in your life, regardless of your state.

Waiting for a state to solve all your problems is not a healthy or effective attitude for this work. A much better attitude is to be willing to get dirty with life, to get beat up and keep going no matter what. Stop asking for life to be easy. Stop seeking too much personal comfort. Embrace the challenge and brutality of life.

[BipolarGrowth]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This would be like the pinnacle of this work.

Don't expect it to come quickly or easily.

The desire to achieve a permanent carefree state will itself backfire and create lots of suffering as you will always be upset that, "Why am I not in a carefree state yet?" This can actually make you very miserable and depressed.

So the solution here is to pursue awakening and liberation, BUT for fuck's sake, enjoy the journey and don't wait to be happy. Be happy now, regardless of whatever shit is imperfect in your life, regardless of your state.

Waiting for a state to solve all your problems is not a healthy or effective attitude for this work. A much better attitude is to be willing to get dirty with life, to get beat up and keep going no matter what. Stop asking for life to be easy. Stop seeking too much personal comfort. Embrace the challenge and brutality of life.

This is very good advice.

 

I can’t tell you how to truly make it permanent, but just search for the right method that happens to fit you the best. Could be psychs, meditation, yoga, contemplation — it’s probably a situation where choosing all of the above will help the most overall. 
 

What truly broke my sense of self for the first time to a complete degree was a combination of a light dose of THC and then contemplation. That awakening was as strong as anything else I’ve had but with No Self as the primary facet of awakening in focus. Before this, I had a strong foundation of nondual philosophy, Heartfulness meditation w/ transmission, high-dose psychedelic trips, and probably some karma or lack of karma (basically just lucky) helping me get there to name just a few of the factors involved. 

[JonasVE12]

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This would be like the pinnacle of this work.

Don't expect it to come quickly or easily.

The desire to achieve a permanent carefree state will itself backfire and create lots of suffering as you will always be upset that, "Why am I not in a carefree state yet?" This can actually make you very miserable and depressed.

So the solution here is to pursue awakening and liberation, BUT for fuck's sake, enjoy the journey and don't wait to be happy. Be happy now, regardless of whatever shit is imperfect in your life, regardless of your state.

Waiting for a state to solve all your problems is not a healthy or effective attitude for this work. A much better attitude is to be willing to get dirty with life, to get beat up and keep going no matter what. Stop asking for life to be easy. Stop seeking too much personal comfort. Embrace the challenge and brutality of life.

This kind of thinking is counterproductive and supresses people's authenticity. Telling/hinting people to persue awakening and stop desiring what they authentically desire is not promotive of growth. It's like telling a child to be happy without the love of his parents, telling him the desire should be surrendered, while realizing everything is perfect. Awakening is not a solution for every situation for every person.

The desire is not what makes you suffer, That is not what it is about, it's secundary. It's the fact that the desire is not fulfilled, that makes you suffer. Even after awakening, you don't transcend your authentic personality which prefers a certain life story. You are the creator. You should be free in creating what you want in reason. Just like if there would be a technical limitation between you and the creation of Actualized.org, the desire to work around that limitation leads you on a practical and integrative path in which you work around that human problem and advance on your path to persue your authentic life goals.

If there is an emotional blockage of shame that supresses your carefree authentic expression, it's experienced as a limitation which removes you from your authentic self. Ok, you see through the suffering of that limitation and see the nature of it, but you don't simply let it go by having that inner knowing. You might dissociate from it by trying to become present. And you could call that 'liberation', but is that really what life should be about? Trying to become present so you don't have to be aware of your limitations?

It's not a quick-fix fun comfortable state he is after. OP is not looking for a 'state', rather, he is looking  for a more authentic way of being, a release of conditioning, and emotional embodiment. A more natural truthful way of being. An escape from those limitations he has inside himself. Childhood deconditioning. Social opportunities, fun, pleasure, feeling alive and unrestrictive.