Are You A Man?

[Opo]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

It goes much deeper than that. It corrupts his entire being.

Maybe you saw something I didn't. But I could argue that all the shitty food that he eats corrupts him more, and all this feels like pointless nitpicking. 

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, whatishappeningtome said:

Jesse Lee Peterson accidentally publicly liked a gay porn post on his twitter account. This is from a man who constantly spews anti-gay rhetoric. He must be massively repressed sexually 

Are you fucking serious?  No way 

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Opo said:

Maybe you saw something I didn't. But I could argue that all the shitty food that he eats corrupts him more, and all this feels like pointless nitpicking. 

It's as simple as this: do you seek truth for truth's sake or do you seek to win debates? Now, how does spending hours skimming through articles while preparing for a debate square with that question? Maybe I'm way too picky, but I sincerely believe that once you enter a debate not to satisfy a deep desire for understanding and truth but to instead defeat your opponent with some quick and easy points you scrapped up from wikipedia, then you're way off course.

Edited May 18, 2021 by Carl-Richard

[Ves]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

A better example would be 3D rendered child porn. It doesn't hurt any children. But people will still hate it.

I believe he makes this very argument in the video as well! As an attempt to kind of temper the original one. Of course, they hated it for the same reasons, but if we're being totally honest, most of the people who appear already despise Destiny so much they would never agree with him on any issue.

[Ves]

4 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

@Ves Yeah no, yet more evidence that Destiny isn't a very noble person, mostly in the sense that he has questionable drives and priorities. Sure, there is nothing wrong with having fun talking to people who don't know anything, but I feel his identity as a "debater" has a predominantly unhealthy effect on him in general.

He sort of evolved into this role over time on Twitch and it's what he's most known for, now. I imagine it would be possible for him to undergo some massive rebranding, but he enjoys having debates. Not every debate he has devolves into these hilariously insane insult matches, either (for instance, his in-person debates seem to be much better and his conversations which are less debate-oriented tend to be less inflammatory). I'm not sure what his questionable drives and priorities are, unless you mean he finds it enjoyable to have these crazy heated shit-talk-fests at times.

EDIT: I now realize I should have just multi-quoted in a single post. Whoops.

Edited May 18, 2021 by Ves

[Fadl]

The guy, just cant understand why some guys want to stick their penieses inside other guys assholes .. maybe he need to go from blue to green to understand that sticking your penis inside an asshole where your shit  is ok ...

if you don't think that you can replace your penis with a fake vagina then you are not yellow... no way, you are just a pathetic blue.

 

[Carl-Richard]

23 minutes ago, Ves said:

I'm not sure what his questionable drives and priorities are, unless you mean he finds it enjoyable to have these crazy heated shit-talk-fests at times.

Here:

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

It's as simple as this: do you seek truth for truth's sake or do you seek to win debates? Now, how does spending hours skimming through articles while preparing for a debate square with that question? Maybe I'm way too picky, but I sincerely believe that once you enter a debate not to satisfy a deep desire for understanding and truth but to instead defeat your opponent with some quick and easy points you scrapped up from wikipedia, then you're way off course.

 

[Ves]

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It's as simple as this: do you seek truth for truth's sake or do you seek to win debates? Now, how does spending hours skimming through articles while preparing for a debate square with that question? Maybe I'm way too picky, but I sincerely believe that once you enter a debate not to satisfy a deep desire for understanding and truth but to instead defeat your opponent with some quick and easy points you scrapped up from wikipedia, then you're way off course.

Well, the people who are going to engage in the debate have to form some coherent mental picture of the world in order to then argue about how we should change them (well, at least if they are going to use reason, but some level of reason is required for it to have any sense of meaning at all. More importantly, we have gone through the western enlightenment and most people are now going to form/change their beliefs with varying levels of logical thinking). Currently, it seems that one of the most effective ways to do this is to use statistics and the social sciences, and it seems like the best way to access these things is via the internet; either in articles or directly on the study databases.

I'm not really sure how it could be any other way; people have to read articles and statistics in order to get familiar with the current data available about the topic. Unless by "pursue truth" you mean Destiny should become enlightened and realize there are no real problems in the world apart from our ideas about problems, and thus Destiny no longer feels the need to convince anyone of anything at all. At which point, I would wonder what the point of browsing the politics section of the forum is. If you mean Destiny should find out what is true about things like gun control and systemic racism and simply be content that he now knows, then I have other issues with that that I will give if this is indeed what you mean.

[Opo]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

It's as simple as this: do you seek truth for truth's sake or do you seek to win debates? Now, how does spending hours skimming through articles while preparing for a debate square with that question? Maybe I'm way too picky, but I sincerely believe that once you enter a debate not to satisfy a deep desire for understanding and truth but to instead defeat your opponent with some quick and easy points you scrapped up from wikipedia, then you're way off course.

What you seek is not a debate I forgot what it's called when both people try to get to the truth. 

But you won't find that on youtube our society is way too immature for that. 

[Danioover9000]

@Opo

55 minutes ago, Opo said:

What you seek is not a debate I forgot what it's called when both people try to get to the truth. 

But you won't find that on youtube our society is way too immature for that. 

   Mutual understanding?

[Danioover9000]

@Roy

20 hours ago, Roy said:

Don't be tempted to make fun of Jesse Lee Peterson just because he's a conservative pedant.

He might seriously have brain damage or sustained some kind of head trauma.

Something ain't right with him. The lights are on but nobody is home.

   I'm very tempted to agree with this possibility. I see he was having some difficulty in articulating his thoughts, something about that might be related to some kind of brain damage, but I don't know for sure. 

[Scholar]

7 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

A better example would be 3D rendered child porn. It doesn't hurt any children. But people will still hate it.

You mean people outside of Japan hate it.

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Ves said:

Currently, it seems that one of the most effective ways to do this is to use statistics and the social sciences, and it seems like the best way to access these things is via the internet; either in articles or directly on the study databases.

I'm not really sure how it could be any other way; people have to read articles and statistics in order to get familiar with the current data available about the topic.

Again, it's very simple. My idea of having your priorities straight is that you're sincerely interested in something, you explore it deeply, and then if you want, you can take what you already know and discuss it with someone. That is very different from arranging a debate with a fixed motion/topic and then trying to ad hoc boost your performance in that particular debate by doing some intensive, strategic reading, scheming and planning. Does that mean you shouldn't do any preparation before you speak with someone on a public platform? No, but if you spend hours sweating it out like you're cramming for a test, that does kinda reveal where your priorities are. Don't get me wrong, I still watch Destiny a lot, but he has his flaws (some more obvious than others).

Edited May 18, 2021 by Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

21 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Roy

   I'm very tempted to agree with this possibility. I see he was having some difficulty in articulating his thoughts, something about that might be related to some kind of brain damage, but I don't know for sure. 

Don't claim brain damage where stupidity is sufficient 

[Fadl]

What is stupidity after all? is it about the facts, or is it about how the facts have been said and explained to you?

[Carl-Richard]

18 minutes ago, Fadl said:

What is stupidity after all? is it about the facts, or is it about how the facts have been said and explained to you?

If that's your way of phrasing it, I guess both.

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Don't claim brain damage where stupidity is sufficient 

Otherwise known as: JLP's Razor

[Danioover9000]

   We would be discussing this differently if Destiny's opponent showed signs of mental disorder rather than stupidity, and it rubs me the wrong way if it was the former. Hell, it could also be that he has built up heavy metal toxicity, which does also effect speech and cognition, while looking outwardly normal and not like people who have mental disorders.

   I'll go with ignorance for my peace of mind instead.

[John Iverson]

On 5/17/2021 at 8:22 PM, Leo Gura said:

This is so stupid its leaves me in awe:

 

Are you open to have an interiew with this kind of interviewer in the future? I am curious how you are going to respond tho i dont know why you are going to do that interview haha

[John Iverson]

I don't know why conservatives are closeminded like this, is it really hard to be open and accept a thing like homosexuality? Or to be open to certain beliefs or views? they are inconflict because of not being open to each others worldviews and reality they are at

Edited May 19, 2021 by John Iverson