Leo reminds me of Alan Watts

[Tim R]

I'm watching Leo's new video rn, and I have to say it's brilliant. I love it. The ideas Leo talks about remind me very much of Hindu mythology, where the Godhead plays, gets lost in Maya, the illusion, the play, the power that created this world... Also, some of the things he said sounded exactly like the things Alan Watts said...

Here he talks about the balance between skill and chance for an optimal game. 

Or this: 

 This is 100% the same... Guess both Leo and Alan have realized the same... 

 

But how to realize this for myself? Is there no way around 5-MeO? Or what??

[GreenWoods]

1 hour ago, Tim R said:

But how to realize this for myself? Is there no way around 5-MeO? Or what??

Realizing what Leo explains in the video has two requirements/components:

• Recognition
• Altered consciousness 

In it's most shallow form, Recognition could be considered mentally understanding what Leo talks about. And then Conceptual awakening.

I think this is not too hard, if you do lots of contemplation it should get obvious how for example everything outside direct experience seems like it is your imagination. 

But this is as far as you will get with simple contemplation. You get to the point where this stuff makes sense but you are not sure. You can't be sure. Maybe the past actually only exists as an imagination. Or maybe it is an imagination but it additionally also exists independently of 'you' imagining it.

With an ordinary state of consciousness you don't know. 

It can be known for certain, but for that you need to be in a radically different state of consciousness. Then there is no doubt.

So this is the second component: Altered State.

Psychedelics are by far the most powerful tool to achieve this altered state. But in can be achieved by others too.

The best tools to temporarily alter/increase your state of consciousness:

• sleep yoga
• lucid dreaming 
• shamanic breathing
• dark room retreat
• sleep deprivation
• sensory deprivation tank

And to a lesser extent:

• transmissions
• yoga, meditation, trance, self inquiry, contemplation, concentration,...
• lumenate, brainwave entrainment
• channeling energy
• exhaustion
• fasting
• being sick 
• devotion 
• masturbation and orgasm
• radical surrender (for example due to extreme suffering)

 

However, the temporary increase of none of them is enough to reach the necessary state of consciousness (except maybe sleep yoga and lucid dreaming if you are very good at it) (unless you are talented).

Therfore, your baseline needs to be very high. 

Basically, the key is:

• very high baseline (such that the gap between your baseline and God consciousness gets smaller)
• being skilled at techniques which temporarily increase your state of consciousness 

 

Now, for the baseline, you just gotta do all these tools long enough. The more you do them, the more your baseline increases.

Until the mix of your baseline + tool is eventually enough to reach that God consciousness.

That's how I did it.

What I'm surprised about, is, that when people talk about reaching God consciousness without psychedelics, only common practices like meditation and self inquiry are talked about. And yes, obviusly that won't do the job.

There is a very big difference between merely doing practices like meditation and self inquiry or combining MANY practices. I feel like there is also a synergistic effect when you do a lot of different practcies, which all hit the target from a different angle.

The key for me has been combining many different practices.

For me, the most change in baseline has occured due to:

• Transmissions
• help by spirits
• self inquiry
• devotion 
• sleep deprivation 

4 out of these 5 are almost never talked about on this forum.

 

But all the techniques I mentioned had their place.

Additionally to the practices already mentioned, I also do (or have done in the past):

• chanting mantras
• certain visualisations
• subliminals
• listening to energetic fields
• praying
• manifestation/LOA tools
• music
• hypnosis

 

(Except for sensory deprivation, I've experimented with all of the practices mentioned).

It's also worth mentioning that there is always more depth to any awakening. Such deeper depths (which I haven't accessed, but I'm sure Leo has) might well be only accessible via psychedelics, unless you do the above mentioned practices for many years. And doing all of the powerful ones, like sleep yoga, lucid dreaming and transmissions.

Edited May 16, 2021 by GreenWoods