Leo, have you done no-fap?

[Carl-Richard]

30 minutes ago, Superfluo said:

@Carl-Richard Work also on the first chakra. If you try to open the second without working on the first you'll just try to "replenish" the chakra without nothing to replenish it with.

Why you mentioning me?

[Mellocean]

I think it's important to acknowledge that porn is only bad with a poor mindset on it. Try watching porn without shaming yourself or judging it in any way. Take away the problem of the content by changing the structure. Porn is just like anything else, it's the notion & understanding of it that drives its corruption. 

This of course isn't to say that porn is very healthy for someone who say; has primarily only known porn since puberty. If you can change your view of porn, you can not be harmed by it, & you can use it more wisely.

A good quote to depict this: A man who can reform himself, can reform the world - Paramahansa Yogananda

[Superfluo]

@Carl-Richard Oops, sorry. I was sure I mentioned @Advocate. You havent't even posted anything on this page

[Danioover9000]

@Advocate

6 hours ago, Advocate said:

There is a disorder called POIS (Post-orgasmic illness syndrome). My brother's got it which means that he feels severely sick for at least a day after an ejaculation... brain fog, fatigue... That disorder may be a factor that explains why some people benefit from no-fap.

Also, the second chakra gets triggered by an ejaculation in my experience, so my energetic baggage from the second chakra would show up after an orgasm - which is not exactly pleasant. I'm working on cleaning that chakra so that I will feel better after an ejaculation.

    I have that as well. It really is annoying to have, every time I fap. Also, abstinence actually helped me more on my LP, as some of the benefits gave me that much more energy.

[SageModeAustin]

ive gotten laid tons of times because of no-fap. in fact the hottest women i ever banged and busted inside her was when i was on no-fap. masculinity and feminity are energies, and behavioural patterns are a byproduct of that. but hey i could be wrong, it works for me. you do you idc lmao.  

12 hours ago, Harlen Kelly said:

@SageModeAustin Guys who get laid usually are not obsessed with the whole nofap thing, why do you think that is? Masculinity and Femininity are behavioral patterns that can be altered with mindfulness and deliberate intention, not simply by ''retaining'' semen. That literally makes no sense. 

 

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Peter Miklis said:

Btw, it's one thing to watch normal porn, but porn tends to lead you this downward spiral, and before you know it you end up jerking it to double penetration gangbang videos lol. And normal sex starts being boring to you.

Speak for yourself.

Not all of us are as depraved as you.

I can watch normal porn in moderation and enjoy it in many ways, including aesthetic and spiritual. If you can't, that's not my problem. I feel sorry for ya.

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, 28 cm unbuffed said:

@Leo Gura

Do you think it might be not the smartest move, to fap to porn tho?

There are some studies that prove, that porn influences your mind and thinking patterns in a very negative way in general.

I don't buy those studies. I go by how I feel. I don't need some academic to tell me what to do with my dick.

[Agoy]

19 hours ago, Harlen Kelly said:

@sourcetruth The primary reason you are repressing sexuality is not because of some spiritual reason, is because of your inability to get with the opposite sex, you consequently use nofap as a neurotic overreaction to cope. 

Don't kid yourself. Somebody who is developed and conscious would not be preaching about nofap. 

This is such a ridiculous fucking statement, and just fundamentally not true

if people have a healthy, mindful relationship with porn then that's ok

but nofap is also completely fine and hugely beneficial to loads of people for many different reasons

 it's not exclusive to non-spiritual people, just like it's not exclusive to spiritual people either

everyone has different relationships with their bodies and their sexuality, there's not one answer fits all

 

[Florian]

I think NoFap can help you get laid since it's like a kick in the ass. When you are hungry, you are more likely to eat right? And if you normally eat one kind of food (porn) but then you can't eat that anymore, it's more likely that you will eat food option 2 (sex). And since one of the main purposes of the design of a mans body is to ejaculate, once that homeostasis effect of regular ejaculation is broken, all the connected parts in your system also break out of homeostasis which could result in effects like more energy for a while (comparable to an adrenaline rush), to get you back into a homeostasis.

@Leo Gura Have you consciously gone without porn for a while in the past?

[herghly]

@Leo Gura What do you think of the Taoist sexual practices?

[something_else]

4 hours ago, Florian said:

I think NoFap can help you get laid since it's like a kick in the ass. When you are hungry, you are more likely to eat right?

It could also make you desperate, which would definitely not help you get laid

[bliss54]

From experience, if your jerking off everyday its going to make you massively energy drained

With repect, I don't think you guys should treat Leos opinion on health as fact

He has mentioned he has struggled with low energy levels for a long time now

With conciousness Leo is very advanced but on the health front it is lacking

Edited May 18, 2021 by bliss54

[Javfly33]

On 17/5/2021 at 10:35 AM, Harlen Kelly said:

@sourcetruth The primary reason you are repressing sexuality is not because of some spiritual reason, is because of your inability to get with the opposite sex, you consequently use nofap as a neurotic overreaction to cope. 

 

Topic closed.

[something_else]

5 hours ago, bliss54 said:

From experience, if your jerking off everyday its going to make you massively energy drained

@bliss54 From your experience, maybe. How do you know this applies to everyone? 

Why would evolution allow for all/most men to be weak and drained from consistent ejaculation? That gene would die out so fucking fast

If you're jerking off everyday to cope with being bad at attracting a mate then sure, I agree with you. Mentally that will drive you insane. However the solution there is not exactly to stop, it's to fix the root cause. Which is being bad at attracting a mate.

Edited May 18, 2021 by something_else

[28 cm unbuffed]

@Leo Gura

Yeah, I agree with you, feeling is the key, yet - didn't you experience something like this: after masturbating to porn, when I go to sleep there are images flashing in my head of what I just watched, like imprints or something, behind my eyes. Not sure if that's healthy lol

[Rajneeshpuram]

On 16/5/2021 at 10:29 PM, Girzo said:

How did you verify this theory? 

 

[Rinne]

@Leo Gura Leo i agree with some stuff you say. But dont you think that porn is unnatural? Im not for no fap really but i do think that porn gives us way too much dopamine than that our evolutionary brains werent really meant for thus causing some imbalances in our brain. I feel like porn makes us men a bit weaker. 

Btw are there any books you would recommend around this topic?

Edited May 21, 2021 by Rinne

[fopylo]

@Leo Gura What do you have to lose by trying nofap and no porn? I bet that if you try it you'll see that it's really beneficial. You don't need to buy into the scientific studies but I and many others have tried it and it certainly does improve life quality. Dude this can seriously help you with your work as well. Try doing the emotionally harder thing.
The is a reason why you do  give a fuck about some aspects in your life like health and business and you could also disregard those "scientific" evidence.

[Harlen Kelly]

 

On 5/20/2021 at 11:03 PM, Rinne said:

@Leo Gura Leo i agree with some stuff you say. But dont you think that porn is unnatural? Im not for no fap really but i do think that porn gives us way too much dopamine than that our evolutionary brains werent really meant for thus causing some imbalances in our brain. I feel like porn makes us men a bit weaker. 

Btw are there any books you would recommend around this topic?

That's a story you are telling yourself. Porn being a ''bad'' thing is a belief, is not a fact. 

[Harlen Kelly]

@fopylo The crowd that follows the nofap movement are not particularly conscious people. The vast majority do it as a neurotic overreaction for their lack of options with the opposite sex. 

Again, sexual repression is not some sophisticated technique, it's in fact very neurotic. 

Edited May 23, 2021 by Harlen Kelly