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What is the ultimate fate of reality?

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3 hours ago, vladorion said:

You assume that individuality dies with the physical body, which you don't know.

Well the individual experienced within the body is an illusion and illusions don't die because there already not real.


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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All I know is "Happily Ever After" was the last line of the story, and then I stopped reading because there were no more pages or words. 


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2 hours ago, mandyjw said:

All I know is "Happily Ever After" was the last line of the story, and then I stopped reading because there were no more pages or words. 

Love that ?

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13 hours ago, Mu_ said:

Subjective past life experiences....  Do you remember any?

No. 

11 hours ago, BipolarGrowth said:

 

I think saying with certainty what will happen 30 minutes from now requires a level of madness and arrogance I’d rather stay away from

What about 30 seconds? 

 

10 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

When that organism dies, there won't be even the slightest remembrance of a YOU or existence. So in that sense it doesn't matter already. :o

You keep repeating this sentence as if it were from your holy book. 

You obviously don't know if that's true because you didn't die yet. 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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12 minutes ago, Mu_ said:

@Someone here Well if you don't remember any, then its likely, but not certain, you wont remember this one in the next one....you have first hand proof in this life :)

What 'next one'? How do you know there is a next one? Maybe Yolo? 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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On 10/05/2021 at 4:40 PM, Someone here said:

What about my individual experience?

It's not yours, never was. The construct that is "you" will eventually change and disolve, it already has many times in "your" life. Just ask your five-year-old self.


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@LastThursday sounds like @VeganAwake ?

I'm assuming "me" is the body-mind complex as a whole. Not the character that can change due to age and life experiences. I'm not asking what happens to my character because it's obviously changing all the time. But rather what happens to 'experience' itself if that makes sense. 

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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***  This. *** Of course.

"Is there a point in the future where all of existence will simply vanish and dissolve into nothingness?"

It is already nothing. There isn't any need to dissolve or vanish anything; it is already completely that: whole, one, zero. Nothing is going on......

....

except your imagination, silly.

Ask yourself as God: when do you want to stop imagining stuff?

When you are in deep sleep is anything imagined?

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Can you bite your own teeth?  --  “What a caterpillar calls the end of the world we call a butterfly.

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9 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

In a sense; the way you are experiencing anything at all is... backwards. In reverse.

How so? 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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2 minutes ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

This. Of course.

^^ Exactly. Why was this even a question? xD

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6 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Reflection. thought.

Explain, me dumb.

BTW I'll "kill" myself with my friend Leo in a bit, wish me luck !

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Whoever lives in love lives in God

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1 minute ago, ivankiss said:

I'd suggest you to focus on dissolving your 'direct experience' into Beingness.

All the questions are answered there.

All righty master !


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And God in them

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On 5/10/2021 at 6:40 PM, Someone here said:

Is there a point in the future where all of existence will simply vanish and dissolve into nothingness? Or is it just gonna keep going forever creating more forms to infinity?  What about my individual experience? Maybe reality has no end as a whole but do I have an end? Will my subjective experience continue endlessly? Or is there an end to me? What is the ultimate fate of all of existence including my personal fate? Where am I gonna end up in? Or is it just gonna keep going forever? ?

When the thoughts ends, You find Yourself. Whatever you say is just an illusion , none of them is true and will happen. 


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55 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@LastThursday sounds like @VeganAwake ?

I take that as a compliment. One person you can dismiss, two people you have take more seriously...

57 minutes ago, Someone here said:

I'm assuming "me" is the body-mind complex as a whole. Not the character that can change due to age and life experiences. I'm not asking what happens to my character because it's obviously changing all the time. But rather what happens to 'experience' itself if that makes sense.

I'm not talking about your character, I'm talking about the observer that is "you" thinking you're a body-mind complex. That thing will change and disolve.  That is really what you're calling "experience". Consiousness itself is absolute, but the observer is relative and flimsy. Consciousness carries on, but the observer dies.


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56 minutes ago, ivankiss said:

Reflection. thought.

Don't know what you mean. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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1 hour ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

It is already nothing. There isn't any need to dissolve or vanish anything; it is already completely that: whole, one, zero. Nothing is going on......

Right... 

1 hour ago, WaveInTheOcean said:

except your imagination, silly.

Ask yourself as God: when do you want to stop imagining stuff?

When you are in deep sleep is anything imagined?

Now you are talking an alien language that doesn't correspond to direct experience. 

In fact if any.. It's YOU who is imagining God imagining stuff.. not the other way around. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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48 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

Consiousness itself is absolute, but the observer is relative and flimsy. Consciousness carries on, but the observer dies.

 

What's your definition of consciousness?   

How can there be consciousness without an observer? 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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2 hours ago, Someone here said:

You keep repeating this sentence as if it were from your holy book. 

You obviously don't know if that's true because you didn't die yet. 

I'm trying to help 'you' notice that there already isn't a 'you' in which could die.... and it's not working very well not surprisingly LOL.

THIS is already death because the 'you' that starts forming around the age of three is an illusion.

Have you heard the phrase: to die before you die.....

That phrase isn't talking about body/mind organism death, it's pointing to the collapse of the illusory entity that claims itself as the body/mind organism.

And yes only no one can know this.

 


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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