Is everything we experience just imaginary?

[Holygrail]

like nothing is actually happening in the present moment but perception, yet it seems like an experienced happened if we just connect all the perceptions from all the "nows" that has happened. Even though if we dont add any meaning to those experiences, they dont technically exists because only the stuff we're conscious of exists. But lets say someone flicks us off in traffic because they were mad at something we did, there was still a cause and effect and meaning to the experience regardless if we're not conscious of it as such?

[Godishere]

It is infinitely intelligent. It imagines here and there. Past and future. But it's only happening now. There is no time. Time is imaginary, you don't experience time. Only now. You can become aware of this right.... Now. ?

 

On that note, and I guess to elaborate. What I mean is, you are sitting here as God in an infinite dream. This dream is what we call reality. God imagines everything. Its imagining itself right now as a human talking to me, but we are just God talking to God. Sitting here.. dreaming up all of this around us. Everything in this dream is dualistic, which causes an illusion of here vs there but it's actually nowhere.... What a mind fuck that is to become conscious of. 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Godishere

[Victor van Rijn]

Bashar says that although in essence (absolutely speaking) everything is an illusion or imaginary, the experience you have of it is real!

[Mason Riggle]

@Holygrail "Is everything we experience just imaginary?"

Does it matter? 

Are you 'really' reading my comment on a 'real' forum right now, or does it only seem like you are??  What difference could it possibly make which one it is? 

How would you know if everything we experience is 'really' imaginary, or if it just 'seems' like it is??? 

[Nahm]

3 hours ago, Holygrail said:

like nothing is actually happening in the present moment but perception, yet it seems like an experienced happened if we just connect all the perceptions from all the "nows" that has happened. Even though if we dont add any meaning to those experiences, they dont technically exists because only the stuff we're conscious of exists. But lets say someone flicks us off in traffic because they were mad at something we did, there was still a cause and effect and meaning to the experience regardless if we're not conscious of it as such?

What meaning, in a ‘meat on the bone’ sense, can be seen, or, which awareness aware of, there?

[Inliytened1]

3 hours ago, Godishere said:

It is infinitely intelligent. It imagines here and there. Past and future. But it's only happening now. There is no time. Time is imaginary, you don't experience time. Only now. You can become aware of this right.... Now. ?

On that note, and I guess to elaborate. What I mean is, you are sitting here as God in an infinite dream. This dream is what we call reality. God imagines everything. Its imagining itself right now as a human talking to me, but we are just God talking to God. Sitting here.. dreaming up all of this around us. Everything in this dream is dualistic, which causes an illusion of here vs there but it's actually nowhere.... What a mind fuck that is to become conscious of. 

?? indeed...and you are the Now. The Actual.

@Holygrail which is why if you ever tried to capture the present moment it slips away - because you ARE the present moment - so it's prior to capturing .  Can just BE it.  And in fact you're being it right now.

[Holygrail]

18 minutes ago, Nahm said:

What meaning, in a ‘meat on the bone’ sense, can be seen, or, which awareness aware of, there?

i think what you're saying is that there is no meaning unless it is held within consciousness first and even then, its just perception not even happening to anyone so the meaning wasn't even technically meaning? haha the problem with language

Edited May 7, 2021 by Holygrail

[Holygrail]

3 hours ago, Godishere said:

It is infinitely intelligent. It imagines here and there. Past and future. But it's only happening now. There is no time. Time is imaginary, you don't experience time. Only now. You can become aware of this right.... Now. ?

 

On that note, and I guess to elaborate. What I mean is, you are sitting here as God in an infinite dream. This dream is what we call reality. God imagines everything. Its imagining itself right now as a human talking to me, but we are just God talking to God. Sitting here.. dreaming up all of this around us. Everything in this dream is dualistic, which causes an illusion of here vs there but it's actually nowhere.... What a mind fuck that is to become conscious of. 

So now is all there is "the absolute" which has no dualities, it just is, oneness/nothing, and its just the illusory dualities of the mind which causes these imaginary dualities which is just that, illusory. Since everything just is, no "meaning". meaning/non-meaning is only relative within the infinite non-dual absolute... I'm starting to kinda understand this now

Edited May 7, 2021 by Holygrail

[Nahm]

@Holygrail

On one hand, great orientation, great inquiring and inspecting. On the “other hand”, which there isn’t, but is appearing as hands... what’s “consciousness”, “perception”, what is “meaning held within” and or “without”? “Hands” exist? Hand a thought? Hand ‘in’ perception?

Food for contemplation...

[Holygrail]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

?? indeed...and you are the Now. The Actual.

@Holygrail which is why if you ever tried to capture the present moment it slips away - because you ARE the present moment - so it's prior to capturing .  Can just BE it.  And in fact you're being it right now.

dude thats such a mindfuck