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[Proserpina]

 

5 minutes ago, Epikur said:

When making threads or posts one could put a star * for every 10 minutes of meditation you have done in the day. So people can adjust their expectation when reading the post.

As a bonus for every 3 squats and push ups combined you put a dollar sign $. The body needs some training as well, right?

@Leo Gura Can we make this happen?

[Carl-Richard]

I've been transparent about the fact that the only reason I came to the forum was to distract myself from unwanted awakening experiences, so duh

Even so, this post really says more about your own insecurities than anybody else. Maybe you should go outside more, focus on your life purpose etc. and maybe then you'll not have these concerns popping up in your head all the time  

[Hulia]

I like when this forum goes meta :)) Not so boring as all these "wise" comments and advises about everyone being god,  everything being thought and blah-blah. Let´s accuse each other!  

[Epikur]

15 minutes ago, Proserpina said:

 

@Leo Gura Can we make this happen?

*** **  five stars

I think everybody can start doing it if it makes sense to him. I guess someone could make a thread so many people can see it. It could be a sticky thread.

It would have a nice side effect of having some accountability to oneself and to others.

Meditation is king so if not here where then?
 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Epikur

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, Epikur said:

*** **  five stars

I think everybody can start doing it if it makes sense them. I guess someone could make a thread so many people can see it. It could be a sticky thread.

I can enter non-duality without even meditating. How many stars should I put up? 

[Epikur]

5 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

I can enter non-duality without even meditating. How many stars should I put up? 

I don't know. Maybe no one. Or a big T for example.

[Shin]

30 minutes ago, Epikur said:

When making threads or posts one could put a star * for every 10 minutes of meditation you have done in the day. So people can adjust their expectation when reading the post.

As a bonus for every 3 squats and push ups combined you put a dollar sign $. The body needs some training as well, right?

That's just an another upvote system, except now it's self sustaining.

People will just lie about it, that would be an even more dysfunctional system.

There should be no upvote systems, even post count, the only focus of a forum should be what people have to say imo.

[Epikur]

13 minutes ago, Shin said:

That's just an another upvote system, except now it's self sustaining.

People will just lie about it, that would be an even more dysfunctional system.

There should be no upvote systems, even post count, the only focus of a forum should be what people have to say imo.

*****

I am not so shure if many people would lie about it. Specially at this stage where it is not even official. It could be just a reminder to oneself to not to forget meditation and sometimes when you think about meditation and write your stars it may feel like you give yourself more time to think about your post and if it makes sense.

It could also be funny to look at your older posts and compare the quality in relation to your 'stars'.
 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Epikur

[Shin]

39 minutes ago, Epikur said:

*****

I am not so shure if many people would lie about it. Specially at this stage where it is not even official. It could be just a reminder to oneself to not to forget meditation and sometimes when you think about meditation and write your stars it may feel like you give yourself more time to think about your post and if it makes sense.

It could also be funny to look at your older posts and compare the quality in relation to your 'stars'.
 

If you do it for yourself that's great ?

[Meditationdude]

@dflores321 haha ?? 
 

It’s not me I’m worried about. The bullshittery is obvious to me. But like I said, noobs and people without a strong sense of intuition are going to get confused and frustrated from the  keyboard warriors. Obviously we can’t really do anything about it but I hope enough people on here see this and just take comments on here with a grain of salt and realize that egos and projection run rampant on forums. Just be careful is all I’m saying. 
 

There is a good handful of users on the forum that have thousands of comments on here that have serious psychological issues. I’m not an expert on the subject or anything but I do have a degree in psychology ... ?‍♂️

[Meditationdude]

@Epikur ********** $$$$$$$$$$

 

[Epikur]

Just now, Meditationdude said:

@Epikur ********** $$$$$$$$$$

 

*****$$

100 minutes meditation and 100 push ups and squats. Done daily you become a god

 

[Girzo]

I have wanted to post some asterisk signs, but I have none, I am currently dying from AstraZeneca vaccine, hah. Cheers guys, keep up your good work.

[Meditationdude]

@Epikur hehe it’s not that much of a lie. I do meditate 60 min a day and workout 60min a day (I’m a personal trainer) 

[Epikur]

9 minutes ago, Meditationdude said:

@Epikur hehe it’s not that much of a lie. I do meditate 60 min a day and workout 60min a day (I’m a personal trainer) 

*****$$
That is pretty good

[integral]

Most forums will have a guide in the comment box so the guide is seen every time someone comments. Its a basic and very effective user experience hack. Here is the full guide line for the integral life forum. Condense this to a few words of wisdom and place it in the comment box. It would also be good training. Was thinking of making a chrome extension that adds words of commenting wisdom to every comment box on all sites. Would be nice. 

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Edited May 7, 2021 by integral

[Meditationdude]

@Carl-Richard

4 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Even so, this post really says more about your own insecurities than anybody else. Maybe you should go outside more, focus on your life purpose etc. and maybe then you'll not have these concerns popping up in your head all the time  

I can see how you could assume this but what if the opposite was true? What if I spend lots of time outside enjoying life and am already living in my life purpose?

 

Would that mean my concerns are more valid? 
 

 

[Meditationdude]

4 hours ago, Epikur said:

When making threads or posts one could put a star * for every 10 minutes of meditation you have done in the day. So people can adjust their expectation when reading the post.

As a bonus for every 3 squats and push ups combined you put a dollar sign $. The body needs some training as well, right?

@Epikur @Proserpina I personally think a better idea would be to simply remove the comment count under users profile picture. But the very best idea is a voting system. If someone likes your comment and it was helpful you give them an ♾ point (?) Leo and mods can also flag best comments for us to notice maybe. Just a simple red dot ? will do the trick. 
 

Also meditation isn’t necessary a good indicator of your level of integrity. And that’s what we’re are talking about here. Mediation may “show” us how inauthentic and out of integrity we are, but personal development is how we actually make changes. Taking action. All I see is thoughts, ideas and theories on here and almost nobody has direct experience of any of it. Just a Leo parrot, YouTube/internet junky with some intelligence, good memory retention and a lot of spare time.  

[Meditationdude]

2 minutes ago, Meditationdude said:

@Epikur @Proserpina I personally think a better idea would be to simply remove the comment count under users profile picture. But the very best idea is a voting system. If someone likes your comment and it was helpful you give them an ♾ point (?) Leo and mods can also flag best comments for us to notice maybe. Just a simple red dot ? 

Ok maybe this isn’t a good idea. I just remembered after watching the HBO documentary on QAnon. This is exactly how they have there forums set up lol! I guess what happened is the mods just funnel the bullshit up to top and blindly believe (because so many people “agree”) what they are seeing is truth ? Sneaky 

[Epikur]

1 minute ago, Meditationdude said:

@Epikur @Proserpina I personally think a better idea would be to simply remove the comment count under users profile picture. But the very best idea is a voting system. If someone likes your comment and it was helpful you give them an ♾ point (?) Leo and mods can also flag best comments for us to notice maybe. Just a simple red dot ? will do the trick. 
 

Also meditation isn’t necessary a good indicator of your level of integrity. And that’s what we’re are talking about here. Mediation may “show” us how inauthentic and out of integrity we are, but personal development is how we actually make changes. Taking action. All I see is thoughts, ideas and theories on here and almost nobody has direct experience of any of it. Just a Leo parrot, YouTube/internet junky with some intelligence, good memory retention and a lot of spare time.  

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As far as I know the like system has been tried out at the beginning and it did not work. I think that created drama because people take 'likes' to serious in a forum that is a safe space for many.

It is also a spiritual forum. The guiding believe is you are god. People have their own pace. Putting too much pressure might also be stressful.