Lao Tzu didn't care for meditation?

[The0Self]

16 minutes ago, Tim Ho said:

Somehow I understand all you said.  I had dozen of "God" kind experiences, but not a total-awakening or ego death.  I think 5meo will help

Yeah there can seem to be a resonance right in the so-called gap between each of: certainty-doubt, safety-danger, intention-expectation, judgement-caring. Because that's where it's obvious no one is, and there is no one.

It's the place where you've never been certain nor doubtful; felt safe nor in danger; intended nor expected anything; judged nor cared -- that "place" is all there is. It's everything, or what apparently happens.

Edited May 6, 2021 by The0Self

[The0Self]

1 minute ago, Tim Ho said:

@The0Self  Thank you

Thank you!

Btw, you won’t believe it, but if you knew what liberation was like, you would not choose it — and you will not be the exception to that rule 

No need to let that scare you though! It’s simpler than you’d think. You can’t imagine what it’s like — simply because it’s what’s already happening.

[tatsumaru]

8 hours ago, The0Self said:

Btw, you won’t believe it, but if you knew what liberation was like, you would not choose it.

Actually the ego wouldn't choose liberation (aka the you that you think you are, not your true Self). The true Self never makes this choice as it is already liberated. Be careful not to spread misleading sentiments.

[The0Self]

1 hour ago, tatsumaru said:

Actually the ego wouldn't choose liberation (aka the you that you think you are, not your true Self). The true Self never makes this choice as it is already liberated. Be careful not to spread misleading sentiments.

Figured it was implied that “you” obviously refers to the false self. It shouldn’t have been misleading at all if understood correctly.

[tatsumaru]

2 hours ago, The0Self said:

Figured it was implied that “you” obviously refers to the false self. It shouldn’t have been misleading at all if understood correctly.

Why do you think it's obvious?

[The0Self]

Just now, tatsumaru said:

Why do you think it's obvious?

Because there's no real you? That which could be called true self is not a self at all, it's no-thing everything'ing. No separation or other.

[tatsumaru]

2 hours ago, The0Self said:

Because there's no real you? That which could be called true self is not a self at all, it's no-thing everything'ing. No separation or other.

If you say so.