Causation of reality: Did God not cause anything?

[Loving Radiance]

Leo's comment under Deconstructing The Myth Of Science - Part 2:

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Causation does not exist. Your mind imagines it. Cause/effect is a projection of a dualistic mind.

Reality is uncaused since it is infinite.

The mind constructs causation and any story is causation.

During my last trip it was known that Infinity causes infinite variations of form till eternity. So, is it still a story being comprehensible enough for the mind to grasp? I mean, the mind tries to make sense of everything and it was direct feeling that Nothing/Formlessness causes everything/form.

I never felt anything to be that true and now it is turned upside down. It's still true for me.

So, is directly experiencing Infinity spitting out or manifesting infinite form not true?

[Nahm]

Yes, still a story. 

[Loving Radiance]

I never felt anything more absolute and true that this.

 

However it now makes sense that everything is God because Infinity isn't finite. I didn't grasp what "infinite cannot know finite" meant. Edit: I now know what it means.

Edited May 4, 2021 by Loving Radiance

[The0Self]

1 hour ago, Loving Radiance said:

I never felt anything more absolute and true that this.

 

However it now makes sense that everything is God because Infinity isn't finite. I didn't grasp what "infinite cannot know finite" meant.

Infinite knowing something finite implies something other than infinity to be known, which of course isn't real. It's a good pointer. Here's another:

Let's just assume the possibility that there is no reality. Lets take it for granted as the truth, just as an exercise. Got it? Ok... I am reality; you are reality -- that seems to need no proof because it is self evident; the one self evident thing... Not so fast. "Self-evident?" Should sound a little suspicious. What I cannot ever understand, is that there is no reality, simply because I am reality -- I can only assume that there is I/reality (I am real), since not doing so is its absence. So I is a position; an empty claim that "creates itself," and is therefore not real. It takes a position and claims the appearance as real, when there is no actual reason to claim is as "real" nor "unreal." That is the conceptual explanation of what emptiness refers to.

But God-realization is where all the fun is -- grasping the ungraspable; understanding the universe into existence via understanding the non-understandable infinite.

Edited May 4, 2021 by The0Self

[Loving Radiance]

@The0Self It is so radical ? Thank God for conceptual understanding, otherwise the identity would be long dead.

[The0Self]

1 minute ago, Loving Radiance said:

@The0Self It is so radical ? Thank God for conceptual understanding, otherwise the identity would be long dead.

Completely, lol

[Nahm]

1 hour ago, Loving Radiance said:

I didn't grasp what "infinite cannot know finite" meant. Edit: I now know what it means.

? Beautiful. Now I gotta switch it to formless can not know form. 

[Loving Radiance]

@Nahm

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Now I gotta switch it to formless can not know form. 

But I know it too. What are you gonna do You cannot confuse me now.

It's so weird, when there was thinking about your "it's still a story" answer there were two flashbacks to the feeling state of the Infinity trip. After all the mind seems to be a bit more open to confusion. Or just broken who knows.

Edited May 4, 2021 by Loving Radiance

[Nahm]

@Loving Radiance

Perfect. 

[Carl-Richard]

Causation is a way to describe relationships between things. Just don't forget that reality is not a description of things and you're fine

[Loving Radiance]

@Carl-Richard The mind wants reality to be a description of things. I wanna check the creation of the mind. [using the mind to question the mind lol, as if that helps, who knows where that leads]

[The0Self]

This whole “thing” is not moving. It just seems like you’re moving through time because you imagine time “carries” something through it, namely you. I’m not even talking to nothing, this is nothing speaking and hearing with empty thoughts of different locations. There aren’t even two different times either, or one. There is no time and there is no causation...

[Loving Radiance]

@The0Self Mindfucking ?

[The0Self]

4 hours ago, Loving Radiance said:

@The0Self Mindfucking ?

It’s crazy because while life will never be difficult for anyone in any serious way again, there isn’t anyone to be convinced that it’s real, so hardly anyone left to experience. It’s amazing how this un-nameable Love uses variable real-ness to deliver/fulfill itself in complete fashion.