Quit Semen Retention After 3 Months Because Of Pain

[SQAAD]

I wanna share this story here so maybe i can get some feedback.

I have been experimenting with Semen Retention for the last couple of years and it is one of my favorite things to do. It helps me psychologically tremendously like nothing else.

Anyways the last 3 months i was on Semen Retention for 94 days actually.  My intention was to Complete 1 year of Semen Retention (no sex also, hardmode).

3-4 times during this whole period were really really  hard but i managed to do the right thing, practice Impulse Control and not masturbate. Other than these few hard times everything was quite easy and manageable (i have quite experience at this point).

After 1 and a half month of semen retention i began to ejaculate in my sleep which was cool. The noctural emmisions were happening like every 1-2 weeks .

At the final days of this Semen Retention journey i began to feel a mild pain in the groin area, a little bit above my penis. I think it was the prostate. I am not really sure though. The pain was kinda like a feeling of some sort of blockage.  It was more of a Sensation of some sort of Blockage rather than a Pain.

I can't describe it better.

At day 94, i felt this blockage again and i got scared to be honest. So i decided to masturbate to avoid any sort of complications. I hesitated a lot before doing it but i felt that it was the right thing to do.

Afterwards i felt very disapointed. Disapointed because i reached a point where i could keep my semen retention journey a lot longer but i had to stop because of this health concern.

When i began to masturbate again, i noticed that i didn't ejaculate as much semen as i did before the semen retention. Also it seems like the semen took few seconds longer to come out after the climax.

I really don't know what to make of all this. I heard a monk who was celibate for 8 years talking about some prostate exercises you can do to keep your prostate healthy because if you practice semen retention for many years there is a risk of prostate cancer they say.

I don't know what's going on. I haven't researched all this extensively. I know many peole on semen retention for years who didn't have a single problem. So i was operating on that train of thought.

Now the pain/sensation i felt during semen retention is gone. Maybe the pain i felt during semen retention wasn't something serious to be concerned of. I really don't know.

I still want to keep practicing semen retention but now i think that maybe i need to masturbate maybe once a week/month. 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2021 by SQAAD

[Osaid]

Prostate is a good guess, and it is located in the spot which you described. It does sound like a prostate matter to me. Did you edge a lot during the abstinence? Abstinence does seem to create a build up of prostatic fluid in the prostate, especially if you're edging during it or getting aroused a lot.

I also experienced low amounts of semen after coming out of no-fap, and it was pretty watery too. It fixed itself after I started masturbating more regularly, so I would say it's a somewhat normal reaction.

Just out of curiosity, did you experience a flatline during the abstinence? A period where your libido just completely vanished?

33 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

I know many peole on semen retention for years who didn't have a single problem. So i was operating on that train of thought.

Yeah, I was the same. It seems abstinence is much more nuanced than people give it credit for.

[SQAAD]

@Osaid

39 minutes ago, Osaid said:

. Did you edge a lot during the abstinence? Abstinence does seem to create a build up of prostatic fluid in the prostate, especially if you're edging during it or getting aroused a lot.

I also experienced low amounts of semen after coming out of no-fap, and it was pretty watery too. It fixed itself after I started masturbating more regularly, so I would say it's a somewhat normal reaction.

Just out of curiosity, did you experience a flatline during the abstinence? A period where your libido just completely vanished?

 

No.  I wasn't edging. Maybe only while dreaming i guess. Also my libido remained normal , it didn't flatline.

Is the build-up of prostatic fluid something concerning? I haven't heard about it.

Do you think that i could continue my semen retention safely? I think i have experienced this mild pain other times when on semen retention as well but it went away with time. I am not sure though.

 

Edited May 1, 2021 by SQAAD

[Osaid]

9 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

Is the build-up of prostatic fluid something concerning? I haven't heard about it.

Prostatic fluid is a normal thing that accompanies sexual arousal. I wouldn't say it's that concerning, it seems your body does a pretty good job of flushing it out once you climax. Although, a lot of it can build up sometimes. I'm not a doctor, but I can intuit that the reason your semen has so much volume after edging or foreplay is because all the prostatic fluid that is being built up is getting excreted out. If your problem is truly one of the prostate, then I guess the solution is figuring out how to prevent an excess of prostatic fluid from building up.

Might I mention, the "watery semen" that I experienced after no-fap looked very similar to prostatic fluid, it was probably a large amount of prostatic fluid but not a lot of actual sperm. So, there is definitely some interesting stuff that happens with the prostate during no-fap, although I myself haven't looked much into it. 

23 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

Do you think that i could continue my semen retention safely? I think i have experienced this mild pain other times when on semen retention as well but it went away with time. I am not sure though.

I think you did a good job by listening to your body. I think fluid build up in the prostate is a common problem in the no-fap community, I do remember reading posts about it. I personally haven't gone 90 days or experienced anything with the prostate where I felt a "pain" or "blockage", but there are quite a few posts online you can find about other people's experiences with it: 

 https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/3k7h0u/ejaculation_and_the_prostate/

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/prostatitis-frustrating.193095/

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/semen-leakage-during-reboot.21298/

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoFap/comments/6n31bk/two_years_of_nofap_gave_me_prostatitis/

I'm not sure if it is wise to push through any sort of feeling of "blockage" or "pain", I think your prostate was under a lot of pressure or something. Then, there is the other side of the argument where they say that frequent masturbation has caused your body to produce too much prostatic fluid, and that abstinence will help it adapt. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a lot of conclusive or scientific info on this, all we know is that it is a problem regarding excess build-up in the prostate. I'm personally on the side of listening to your body, your body is usually smarter than you when it comes to this stuff.

IME, forcing things when it comes to no-fap often leads to more bad than good. You can probably still do no-fap, but maybe consider stopping when it causes physical pain. My only advice for reducing build-up is preventing sexual arousal, cause you'll only produce more of it if your body feels it is sexually active. And, if you're gonna start taking supplements to reduce it, I think that's a good indication that what you're doing isn't healthy and that it is against what your body wants.

[SQAAD]

@Osaid

49 minutes ago, Osaid said:

 

Might I mention, the "watery semen" that I experienced after no-fap looked very similar to prostatic fluid, it was probably a large amount of prostatic fluid but not a lot of actual sperm. So, there is definitely some interesting stuff that happens with the prostate during no-fap, although I myself haven't looked much into it. 

 

After the Semen Retention, when i masturbated, i did not get the 'watery semen' that you've experienced. What i got was very much reduced semen volume which is still the case even now after couple of weeks.

49 minutes ago, Osaid said:

 

I think you did a good job by listening to your body. I think fluid build up in the prostate is a common problem in the no-fap community, I do remember reading posts about it. I personally haven't gone 90 days or experienced anything with the prostate where I felt a "pain" or "blockage", but there are quite a few posts online you can find about other people's experiences with it: 

I'm not sure if it is wise to push through any sort of feeling of "blockage" or "pain", I think your prostate was under a lot of pressure or something. Then, there is the other side of the argument where they say that frequent masturbation has caused your body to produce too much prostatic fluid, and that abstinence will help it adapt. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a lot of conclusive or scientific info on this, all we know is that it is a problem regarding excess build-up in the prostate. I'm personally on the side of listening to your body, your body is usually smarter than you when it comes to this stuff.

IME, forcing things when it comes to no-fap often leads to more bad than good. You can probably still do no-fap, but maybe consider stopping when it causes physical pain. My only advice for reducing build-up is preventing sexual arousal, cause you'll only produce more of it if your body feels it is sexually active. And, if you're gonna start taking supplements to reduce it, I think that's a good indication that what you're doing isn't healthy and that it is against what your body wants.

Great advice. Thank you~!!

Edited May 2, 2021 by SQAAD

[Osaid]

31 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

After the Semen Retention, when i masturbated, i did not get the 'watery semen' that you've experienced. What i got was very much reduced semen volume which is still the case even now after couple of weeks.

After the watery semen went away, I was left with the same situation. It fixed itself after I started masturbating more regularly. I thought that if I start masturbating more, it will make my body produce more semen, and I guess it worked. I think the abstinence must have signaled to your body that it doesn't need to produce as much anymore. I have also heard other people experiencing the same thing:

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/low-semen-volume-since-i-started-nofap.230946/

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/relapse-low-semen-volume-libido.62975/

https://forum.nofap.com/index.php?threads/nofap-increases-or-decreases-the-ejaculation-volume.263566/

31 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

Great advice. Thank you~!!

No problem.

Edited May 2, 2021 by Osaid

[Salvijus]

Try massaging your testicals and pelvic area on a daily basis

I heard Mantak Chia say that all toxins naturally go down to the sexual organ. If you don't massage it, problems may arise. We sit too long, blood is not circulating well and that area gathers most toxins. That's why it's important. 

In my own case I experienced spasm in my testicals after going for 4months on semen retention. That's when I learnt that massaging is important  it worked wonders for me. You can learn more about it on youtube from Mantak Chia

Good luck ?

[TheDao]

You are getting more energy by not spilling out the sexual energy. Nice. Mantak Chia has al sorts of ways you can increase energy. I think your problem can be solved by having attention to a few things.

Mantak nowadays advises drastically lowering ejaculation but not to zero. Million dollar point is controversial, Michael Winn doesnt advise it anymore. This is stopping the ejaculation, but may not be to healthy long term.  Also circulating the extra energy through the body is advised if you want to hold higher levels of energy. Otherwise the energy gets blocked which translates in aches/pain bodily distress. Probably also the massage helps taking away blockages.

When you hold even higher amounts of energy you also need practices calming and grounding the body. The basic modules of Mantaks system take care of that.

When you get to higher spiritual levels Mantak mixes the sexual energy with heart an heaven energy. Its called Kan-li. Very nice I can tell you from experience.

You can take it as far or not far as you want. You can also become what is called multiorgasmic in this proces. Enjoying the orgasmic feeling but not ejaculating. (is a little less fun than ejaculation to be honest with you)

Edited May 2, 2021 by TheDao

[SQAAD]

@Peter Miklis

4 hours ago, Peter Miklis said:

The moment you experience any pain and feel like you need to get it out manually, don't hesitate to do so. Always listen to your body, don't go against your intuition.

Was the pain gone after you released, or was it still there? If it was still there, it might be a good idea to go to a doctor and get it checked, just in case something's wrong.

I don't have problems like this because my body gets rid of any excess naturally during wet dreams on a monthly basis. I think complete retention is not a good idea, it's good for your prostate to release from time to time.

The pain was not gone completely after i ejaculated. It was gone after couple of days though.

It was more like a blockage sensation rather than a pain.

[SQAAD]

@Salvijus

56 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Try massaging your testicals and pelvic area on a daily basis

I heard Mantak Chia say that all toxins naturally go down to the sexual organ. If you don't massage it, problems may arise. We sit too long, blood is not circulating well and that area gathers most toxins. That's why it's important. 

In my own case I experienced spasm in my testicals after going for 4months on semen retention. That's when I learnt that massaging is important  it worked wonders for me. You can learn more about it on youtube from Mantak Chia

Good luck ?

Thank you , i will check it out.

[SQAAD]

@TheDao

35 minutes ago, TheDao said:

You are getting more energy by not spilling out the sexual energy. Nice. Mantak Chia has al sorts of ways you can increase energy. I think your problem can be solved by having attention to a few things.

Mantak nowadays advises drastically lowering ejaculation but not to zero. Million dollar point is controversial, Michael Winn doesnt advise it anymore. This is stopping the ejaculation, but may not be to healthy long term.  Also circulating the extra energy through the body is advised if you want to hold higher levels of energy. Otherwise the energy gets blocked which translates in aches/pain bodily distress. Probably also the massage helps taking away blockages.

When you hold even higher amounts of energy you also need practices calming and grounding the body. The basic modules of Mantaks system take care of that.

When you get to higher spiritual levels Mantak mixes the sexual energy with heart an heaven energy. Its called Kan-li. Very nice I can tell you from experience.

You can take it as far or not far as you want. You can also become what is called multiorgasmic in this proces. Enjoying the orgasmic feeling but not ejaculating. (is a little less fun than ejaculation to be honest with you)

Interesting stuff. I don't really care about getting any orgasmic pleasure to be honest. What i want to is to be on Semen Retention for as long as possible without any health concerns.

How do you circulate the extra energy??

Edited May 2, 2021 by SQAAD

[TheDao]

9 minutes ago, SQAAD said:

What i want to is to be on Semen Retention for as long as possible without any health concerns.

Well I think it is healthier to ejaculate like once every week/two weeks. And probably a massage can help. Maybe those two things will do enough for a while. But I suspect after some time you may get problems with blockages, then you'll nee the microcosmic orbit too. When energy is circulates it becomes calmer. By focusing on the balls, in time you ll feel there is much energy there, with concentration you can move this energy. It takes time to get control over this and to feel it.  I expect that this video will explain this enough (havnt watched the video):

 

 

 

Edited May 2, 2021 by TheDao

[SQAAD]

On 2/5/2021 at 10:02 PM, TheDao said:

Well I think it is healthier to ejaculate like once every week/two weeks. And probably a massage can help. Maybe those two things will do enough for a while. But I suspect after some time you may get problems with blockages, then you'll nee the microcosmic orbit too. When energy is circulates it becomes calmer. By focusing on the balls, in time you ll feel there is much energy there, with concentration you can move this energy. It takes time to get control over this and to feel it.  I expect that this video will explain this enough (havnt watched the video):

 

 

 

Thank you~!