If you become fully enlightened, what prevents you from falling back into Samsara?

[Byun Sean]

It's kind of something you just have to see for yourself.

 

From experience basically you become completely light and open hearted but in such a way that no one or nothing can spiral you into unconsciousness

again.

I think this is the case because when we are a baby or a child, we are extremely dependent on our parents for love and support to meet our needs. 

At this stage we are very sensitive and be hurt easily which could create some trauma creating unconsciousness or soul separation.

That trauma was created by our system to make sure that we met a need.

 

Once you become more conscious though and heal from your trauma, you will have already healed your heart and met that need. Thus,

now you've accessed a dimension beyond that of survival and you can go about survival consciously rather than unconsciously.

 

You will still have needs. But if the need isn't met you can be a lot more chill about it and it won't leave you with a massive emotional scar on you.

 

This of course is not a binary thing for just "enlightened" or "unenlightened" people. Everyone has a certain amount of love vs fear. Consciousness

vs unconsciousness.

So its more of a spectrum that your moving through as you self actualize.

 

This is why you see people like Ramana, Jesus, or the Buddha being so chill about death. Because death only matters to the extent 

that your system is still dependent upon maintaining the physical and psychological structure.

 

When you become conscious that your true nature is so much more than the physical body and mind.

You still have a bias to survive but if death were to happen to you it's not the end of the world.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by Byun Sean

[Breakingthewall]

samsara theory is very egoic. life as a test to reach a goal. and denies life: it is not desirable. the goal is to escape from life, which is just suffering. It's very silly. Is the life of birds suffering, or that of a dolphin? the human is complex, but it is not all suffering. I would rather stay in samsara for a few million more cycles. life is Beautiful and the absolute isn't going to move

[James123]

On 4/28/2021 at 1:04 PM, Brandon Nankivell said:

Assuming the theory of the Wheel of Life / Samsara is true, why is it that figures like Osho and Buddha say that you escape the cycle of suffering forever? Why couldn't you fall back in? Apparently the wheel of life is begininngless, if it's begininngless though, wouldn't it be endless also?

Impossible. It is like pilling of the skin and after that excepting the skin to be recover as before. 

[Lyubov]

12 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

samsara theory is very egoic. life as a test to reach a goal. and denies life: it is not desirable. the goal is to escape from life, which is just suffering. It's very silly. Is the life of birds suffering, or that of a dolphin? the human is complex, but it is not all suffering. I would rather stay in samsara for a few million more cycles. life is Beautiful and the absolute isn't going to move

I think it comes from a time when life and duality was physically far more brutal and chaotic and people were really just tormented a lot by physical pain. I think today, if a person integrates their shadow and works on their emotions and physical health and such, you can live an incredibly joyous and pleasant life. modern medicine has come far enough that it can treat most physically excruciating ailments and survival is much easier today in most countries.