Why Do Women Cheat? (The Psychology Behind Cheating)

[Emerald]

20 minutes ago, Gili Trawangan said:

Hahaha! Sometimes I wish I could actually experience what a woman's fantasies are like 

Haha! I guess I let the cat out of the bag. Every woman is all about Genghis Kahn. ?

But it’s usually based around something contextual for me if it’s a more heart-centered fantasy. Like, I have a crush on a guy. And then I imagine some scenario where things start off platonic and then there’s a sexual shift, where the context flips in a moment. These fantasies are all about the guy and the exchange of passionate feelings through the medium of sex. 

But the there are more loins-centered fantasies that are like the categories on a porn site. It’s not personal... just about the sexual urge. This one’s a bit more draining... like having a male orgasm is said to be. 

[Leo Gura]

@Emerald There is a direct correlation between the capacity for barbarism and narcissism, sociopathy, and violence.

It's a two-sided lightsaber. Women are attracted to it like moths to a flame, and then act surprised when they get burned.

If you want to sleep with a knight in shining armor, he will have some bloodstains and he will turn his aggression on you at some point.

Women are attracted to leadership, and leadership correlates highly with ego and narcissism. Don't have to, but often does.

[Emerald]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

@Emerald There is a directly correlation between the capacity of barbarism and narcissism, sociopathy, and violence.

It's a two-sided lightsaber. Women are attracted to it like moths to a flame, and then act surprised when they get burned.

That’s incorrect.  

There are plenty of men that you can look at their resting demeanor and see that he has the capacity for violence and aggression.

But you can also see that a significant number of them are very emotionally intelligent with tons of self-control, and hearts of gold.

They’re a mixed bag of Mufasas and Scars.

And you can also see men who lack the capacity for violence and aggression in a significant way who are total narcissistic assholes.

The capacity for violence and aggression  (just like most masculine traits) is very subtle.

It’s not something a man needs to display... in fact, that’s a red flag if he does.

It’s more of a subtle quality that glimmers through his entire personality when a man has developed grace.

So, you don’t really know what it’s like to appreciate this quality. It’s much more of a background element of his energy than anything to do with his overt behavior. 

I’ll say again what I’ve said many times... men have no idea what makes them attractive.

[Leo Gura]

42 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I’ll say again what I’ve said many times... men have no idea what makes them attractive.

I'll say again what I've said many times... women have no idea what they are attracted to and why.

[Lyubov]

not even watching the video. didn't that guy have sexual assault charges brought against him? find higher quality resources for theory. 

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, Peter Miklis said:

literaly made graphs and statistics about his laycount lol.

Never trust a scumbag PUA's numbers. He lies for a living and you trust his numbers?

He would not hesitate to inflate them 90%. It's great for business and ego alike.

This is the problem with manipulative people, you can't ever trust them. A pro PUA is gaming his guy customers as much as he games his girls.

[Raptorsin7]

Michael Jordan is a sociopath. Would he ever have a problem attracting a woman?

[Lyubov]

12 hours ago, Consept said:

Yeah i think this is a good summary, the issue is there are limited good, strong men and theyre becoming scarcer, strength being such an important trait will mean women end up with sociopathic guys. Leading question but why do you think there are so many weak men nowadays?

there aren't. dynamics have just changed and women are getting stronger so to speak so the masculine is kinda in the process of rebranding itself lol. it's like when your main gets a buff in one area but your friend's main hasn't gotten one so now you are beating their ass more cause they haven't learned how to adjust to the new meta. a lot of women don't need to marry a guy to survive now and if they choose not to it isn't frowned upon as much as it used to be. 

Edited April 28, 2021 by Lyubov

[Gili Trawangan]

1 hour ago, Emerald said:

Haha! I guess I let the cat out of the bag. Every woman is all about Genghis Kahn. ?

But it’s usually based around something contextual for me if it’s a more heart-centered fantasy. Like, I have a crush on a guy. And then I imagine some scenario where things start off platonic and then there’s a sexual shift, where the context flips in a moment. These fantasies are all about the guy and the exchange of passionate feelings through the medium of sex. 

But the there are more loins-centered fantasies that are like the categories on a porn site. It’s not personal... just about the sexual urge. This one’s a bit more draining... like having a male orgasm is said to be. 

@Emerald I find it very interesting, because as a guy I don't really discriminate between heart-centered or loins-centered (haha) as you put it. I'm guessing that having these different types of fantasies that seem contradictory must create some dissonance? That's what it sounds like, as if the guy that's in one fantasy is quite different from the guy on the other...

Edited April 28, 2021 by Gili Trawangan

[Lyubov]

9 hours ago, Consept said:

 

 

this is actually pretty good for getting an idea of how women think if you're interested in that, just if a guy wants to understand women better. consider it useful lol.

[Consept]

16 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

this is actually pretty good for getting an idea of how women think if you're interested in that, just if a guy wants to understand women better. consider it useful lol.

It can be, but mostly it's how women want people to think that they think 

[Lyubov]

4 minutes ago, Consept said:

It can be, but mostly it's how women want people to think that they think 

"I would never fuck that guy, he's bellow me"

"he isn't my type, never"

*proceeds to fuck and date said guy*

I'm not trying to start a gender war but I can see through the coy bs a lot of women do. after gaining a ton of experience in this domain I frankly think it's just ridiculous the amount of stupid games that are played. 

people need to start trying to act as true as possible. it feels good. won't always lead to what you want though.

Edited April 28, 2021 by Lyubov

[Emerald]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I'll say again what I've said many times... women have no idea what they are attracted to and why.

I do know very well what I’m attracted to. I’ve contemplated on that probably more than anything else I ever have.

And I also can generally tell you about why people get attracted to who they get attracted to.

I keep telling you what I’ve learned, but you never listen. It doesn’t matter to you how much of my own Shadow I’ve crawled through to get these insights and how many rabbit holes I’ve been down. If you only knew how many disturbing truths about myself that I’ve faced with, you’d know I was being honest.

It’s a shame that you can’t pour wisdom into a cup already filled to the brim with cherished misconceptions. You’re not in the least bit open-minded about this matter. 

You prefer comforting and useful non-truth to truth that feels irrelevant to your agenda. 

But I’ll continue to call you out on your misconceptions. 

I always thought that, if I were a man, I’d probably get stuck in a comfort zone a few layers down into my exploration of human sexuality where it touches what I call “the tepid place”.

For women, this “place” in the psycho-sexual realm is a mixed bag of intense pleasure and intense discomfort. But for men, the discomfort of that place is more subtle and the pleasure is seductive. 

So, though (due to the discomfort) fewer women are likely to get to that place and face with their more animalistic desires, women who do venture there are more likely to move deeper as there is no comfort zone for in human sexuality for women... except at the very top and the very bottom. 

And I don’t get the sense that you’ve ever ventured past the tepid place. Your perspective betrays a lack of depth with regard to this matter.

[Lyubov]

34 minutes ago, Emerald said:

I do know very well what I’m attracted to. I’ve contemplated on that probably more than anything else I ever have.

And I also can generally tell you about why people get attracted to who they get attracted to.

I keep telling you what I’ve learned, but you never listen. It doesn’t matter to you how much of my own Shadow I’ve crawled through to get these insights and how many rabbit holes I’ve been down. If you only knew how many disturbing truths about myself that I’ve faced with, you’d know I was being honest.

It’s a shame that you can’t pour wisdom into a cup already filled to the brim with cherished misconceptions. You’re not in the least bit open-minded about this matter. 

You prefer comforting and useful non-truth to truth that feels irrelevant to your agenda. 

But I’ll continue to call you out on your misconceptions. 

I always thought that, if I were a man, I’d probably get stuck in a comfort zone a few layers down into my exploration of human sexuality where it touches what I call “the tepid place”.

For women, this “place” in the psycho-sexual realm is a mixed bag of intense pleasure and intense discomfort. But for men, the discomfort of that place is more subtle and the pleasure is seductive. 

So, though (due to the discomfort) fewer women are likely to get to that place and face with their more animalistic desires, women who do venture there are more likely to move deeper as there is no comfort zone for in human sexuality for women... except at the very top and the very bottom. 

And I don’t get the sense that you’ve ever ventured past the tepid place. Your perspective betrays a lack of depth with regard to this matter.

I haven't made my mind entirely up on your back and fourths with him over the last several threads. You articulate some interesting points and I think you account for a more wider view of things like long term relationships and marriage, family building, etc. but I find what Leo saying is a sort of a pessimistic way of framing what has often times been my direct experience of things, especially in the beginning with girls, and it's hard to argue against that for me. 

Edited April 28, 2021 by Lyubov

[StarStruck]

It has to do with active-reactive attitude. 

Male energy is active while female energy is reactive. 

If their boyfriend or husband doesn't have that non reactive nature she will feel unsatisfied. A women want to be lead by a man who can hold tension, handle her and fuck her deep. 

Owning male energy has basically to do with being non-reactive to your own fear and other bodily sensations but also being non reactive to her shit tests and tantrums. It starts from the inside though. 

If a male is reactive to his fears and to her shit tests and tantrums, she will lose sexual attraction to her. Polarity has to be kept. 

Edited April 28, 2021 by StarStruck

[LfcCharlie4]

18 hours ago, intotheblack said:

Because of trauma 

these types of men will be history when the collective starts parenting properly 

This x10000

I don't think we realize how many people are still broken from broken childhoods. 

 

In regards to OP its true, why would a happy, satisfied (in all areas) women who is with a man she loves and who fulfils the role of the masculine in the relationship well? 

You have to also remember a LOOOOT of guys have 'high value' traits pre-relationship but then slip into the comfort zone- get out of shape, lose focus on purpose, sex goes downhill etc etc 

I feel Men need to become their best version for THEMSELVES and not solely for the purpose of attracting a partner, then they won't lose all the qualities that made them desirable in the first place. Obvious example is Gym & eating well for yourself first and foremost (or any other sport you love) not to get jacked because you think it will get you girls. 

Also, a slightly unrelated thing is the theory regarding 'Orgasm' hangover I have heard, so maybe incorporating the more 'Loving, Slow' sex (Karezza, forms of tantra) into your sex life as well as other types could help deepen connection & love as the excitement fades, 

 

[Wilhelm44]

When a man and a woman respectively embrace the beast within as something divine, it elevates their lovemaking to something truly sacred. And the wandering eye begins to dissolve for both parties.

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Peter Miklis said:

his customers end up having pretty high numbers too

How do you know? Who told you? He did?

Did you know that every guy who buys my LP Course grows a 12 inch cock?

[intotheblack]

32 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

You have to also remember a LOOOOT of guys have 'high value' traits pre-relationship but then slip into the comfort zone- get out of shape, lose focus on purpose, sex goes downhill etc etc 

I feel Men need to become their best version for THEMSELVES and not solely for the purpose of attracting a partner, then they won't lose all the qualities that made them desirable in the first place. Obvious example is Gym & eating well for yourself first and foremost (or any other sport you love) not to get jacked because you think it will get you girls. 

Yep agree 

all this pickup stuff is teaching you how to attract, it’s all a false front.  They still have no idea how to be in a relationship or be a decent human being.

yeah they can get sex but that’s it. 
 

that’s why most girls end up being attracted to the facade, then the guys can’t keep the act up for long and the true weak man underneath the mask shows 

like the guy in the video, he is not strong, it’s all an act of grandiosity, underneath he’s insecure. 

Edited April 28, 2021 by intotheblack

[Consept]

17 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Did you know that every guy who buys my LP Course grows a 12 inch cock?

I've been meaning to buy the course, could do with one more inch