Why is it creepy to talk about porn with most people in westernized societies?

[Etherial Cat]

4 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Then that means that many of those rappers and rock musicians show an abnormal pattern of not observing etiquette and give off a strong impression of being inclined to threaten women's boundaries and must make countless women feel afraid that they do not control their sexual impulses. Yet, those same rappers and rockstars have slept with tons of women, including a lot of hot women, without paying them for sex. That's what I don't totally get.

This doesn't have much to do with men and women. Men would find it odd as well, even though you'd have a stronger negative reaction from female as they are more on their guard when it comes to sexual innuendo.

Rappers and rockers aren't sitting there or being physically around in a room with you. I assumed that we were talking about IRL interactions. With musicians, you are not in the same dynamic. You can switch off the radio at any moment if it pleases you. Or if you go to their concerts, you've already agreed to what would be the content. And you're going there having already issued consent on what it would be about. So there isn't any boundary being trespassed...

[Hardkill]

18 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

This doesn't have much to do with men and women. Men would find it odd as well, even though you'd have a stronger negative reaction from female as they are more on their guard when it comes to sexual innuendo.

Rappers and rockers aren't sitting there or being physically around in a room with you. I assumed that we were talking about IRL interactions. With musicians, you are not in the same dynamic. You can switch off the radio at any moment if it pleases you. Or if you go to their concerts, you've already agreed to what would be the content. And you're going there having already issued consent on what it would be about. So there isn't any boundary being trespassed...

Okay that's pretty much true. Though why are there millions upon millions of female fans around the world who are appealed by the hardcore sexual content made by all of those rappers and rockers? Why aren't they instead disgusted and turned off by all those lewd lyrics, especially when sung or rapped by many of those rappers and rockstars who are physically repulsive?

[Etherial Cat]

A lot of fan are infatuated with rappers or rockstars. They're projecting on them an image/or a fantasy which supports their sexual lyrics without it popping the bubble. Especially since it encompass as well a need for expressing their sexuality.

But it doesn't mean that these girls are into the content of the lyrics or would like to be concretely in the situation described in the songs. 

I didn't have a crush on 50 cent, but when I was a teenager, I'd sing to PIMP or Candy shop thinking these songs were benign. Sometimes, it took me being well into my 20s to realize how nasty really was a song.

[Hardkill]

5 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

A lot of fan are infatuated with rappers or rockstars. They're projecting on them an image/or a fantasy which supports their sexual lyrics without it popping the bubble. Especially since it encompass as well a need for expressing their sexuality.

But it doesn't mean that these girls are into the content of the lyrics or would like to be concretely in the situation described in the songs. 

I didn't have a crush on 50 cent, but when I was a teenager, I'd sing to PIMP or Candy shop thinking these songs were benign. Sometimes, it took me being well into my 20s to realize how nasty really was a song.

So, how are they able to project the image/or a fantasy which supports their sexual lyrics without it popping the bubble? How are they able to express their sexuality without sounding creepy?

[Etherial Cat]

2 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, how are they able to project the image/or a fantasy which supports their sexual lyrics without it popping the bubble? How are they able to express their sexuality without sounding creepy?

Sorry, I was talking about the fans, not the musicians.

[Hardkill]

2 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

Sorry, I was talking about the fans, not the musicians.

Okay, so why do so many female fans not find those sexual lyrics creepy?