Modern Day Spiritual Person

[bflare]

How does a spiritual awakened person or a spiritual aware person deal with this modern society? If it has already been agreed that attachment to external sources disappears, then how does one survive in this current day culture? We cannot change humanity or how it behaves on the whole so how does the enlightened person live their life today? If we need nothing to be fulfilled, then what happens to the goal setting & personal achievements such as developing a successful business. Also what happens to our external appearance if we realise that other people’s opinions of us do not matter. Would we become overweight, unemployed & living in poor conditions? If this is the case, then why do we see spiritual teachers looking rather well dressed & running successful business? Is this not an aspect of the ego?

I believe that when one is awakened all their beliefs about materialistic things fall away & this realisation can result in going through the dark night of the soul? If been awakened is the end of all suffering then if there was a magic pill that could awaken everyone, would that mean the end of civilization as we know it? Would we all start to live meaningless life’s? Is it not possible to live a modern day life as a spiritual plumber or a spiritual computer engineer?

Look forward to your comments.

Thanks,

Tony.

[Prabhaker]

@bflare A drastic change in your lifestyle helps you to become enlightened. It doesn’t matter whether from the palace you move to the hut, or from the hut you move to the palace. A drastic change in your lifestyle brings the revelation easily, because it uproots you from your ground, it brings you to a totally new territory. You cannot remain the same, you have to change.

Buddha was born a king. He got fed up with his palaces, with his richness, with his luxury; he became a beggar. In the middle of one night, he renounced his kingdom and went into the forest as a beggar. Someone can renounced poverty, and start living like an emperor. What is the difference? Just one difference is there: Buddha’s renunciation was simple, his renunciation is very difficult. To renounce a kingdom luxury and is a very simple phenomenon; you just get out of the palace and into the mountains. But to renounce poverty is not so easy, otherwise all have renounced it. It is difficult task.

In your eyes, the kingdom is so valuable that it is amazing that a man would renounce something for which you have been hankering your whole life. The man is not respected for himself or his spirituality, he is respected for the money that he has left behind. You are still counting money, you are still looking at the bank balance.

46 minutes ago, bflare said:

If this is the case, then why do we see spiritual teachers looking rather well dressed & running successful business?

A spiritual person is not attached to things, what should he do then ? Throw all the things, start living nude and chew grass or commit suicide ? If a person is non attached , why will he even renounce a thing which he knows has no value, what's the point ? 

A spiritual person is detached to everything , but he can live any kind of life style which he finds appropriate to help others, it is just like a movie actor acting for a particular role. He can live like a beggar or he can live like a king.

[bflare]

1 hour ago, Prabhaker said:

@bflare A drastic change in your lifestyle helps you to become enlightened. It doesn’t matter whether from the palace you move to the hut, or from the hut you move to the palace. A drastic change in your lifestyle brings the revelation easily, because it uproots you from your ground, it brings you to a totally new territory. You cannot remain the same, you have to change.

Buddha was born a king. He got fed up with his palaces, with his richness, with his luxury; he became a beggar. In the middle of one night, he renounced his kingdom and went into the forest as a beggar. Someone can renounced poverty, and start living like an emperor. What is the difference? Just one difference is there: Buddha’s renunciation was simple, his renunciation is very difficult. To renounce a kingdom luxury and is a very simple phenomenon; you just get out of the palace and into the mountains. But to renounce poverty is not so easy, otherwise all have renounced it. It is difficult task.

In your eyes, the kingdom is so valuable that it is amazing that a man would renounce something for which you have been hankering your whole life. The man is not respected for himself or his spirituality, he is respected for the money that he has left behind. You are still counting money, you are still looking at the bank balance.

A spiritual person is not attached to things, what should he do then ? Throw all the things, start living nude and chew grass or commit suicide ? If a person is non attached , why will he even renounce a thing which he knows has no value, what's the point ? 

A spiritual person is detached to everything , but he can live any kind of life style which he finds appropriate to help others, it is just like a movie actor acting for a particular role. He can live like a beggar or he can live like a king.

So basically you still have the choice to live how you feel fit even though you are detached? I am under the impression which may be incorrect, that once enlightened you have no want or need for anything materialistic? That you do not enjoy anything that can be found outside of the true self?

Thanks,

Tony.

[Prabhaker]

1 minute ago, bflare said:

I am under the impression which may be incorrect, that once enlightened you have no want or need for anything materialistic?

He will do (in fact existence will do through him) whatever is good for humanity. If he is a good teacher, he can spread his message with the help of money and technology. He can live like a king to set an example that one can do spiritual progress without torturing himself.

[Bob84]

1 hour ago, bflare said:

I am under the impression which may be incorrect, that once enlightened you have no want or need for anything materialistic? That you do not enjoy anything that can be found outside of the true self?

Any enlighten (non vegetarian) prefers a nice juicy steak over a dry peace bread. The difference is that there fine with the dry bread.