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George Paul

Pain Vs Time During Meditation

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Hey guys, I know that the quality of meditation equals PAIN x AWARENESS, but if I have the option to meditate by kneeling on a leather cushion very soft and comfy, would that be wrong ? I mean being capable to meditate a longer period of time is better or worse than meditating shorter but with pain in the feet ? Maybe the correct formula might be PAIN x TIME x AWARENESS.

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5 hours ago, George Paul said:

Maybe the correct formula might be PAIN x TIME x AWARENESS.

No, don't be a masochist be playful about it, otherwise it will turn it into another ego trip; it will make you very serious. That's what has happened to thousands of so-called saints, moralists, puritans: they are just playing ego games, subtle ego games.

Life as such has to be taken as a cosmic joke – and then suddenly you relax because there is nothing to be tense about. And in that very relaxation, something starts changing in you – a radical change, a transformation.

Only when the mind recoils from a fact or reality, is there pain. You are recoiling from the facts of cowardice, fear, anger and sadness. Psychological pain is part and parcel of the process of escape and resistance. Pain is not inherent in any feeling, but arises only after the intent to reject it arises. The moment you decide to reject something, pain arises. It is not really sadness that gives you pain. It is the interpretation that sadness is wrong that gives you pain, and that becomes a psychological problem.

6 hours ago, George Paul said:

if I have the option to meditate by kneeling on a leather cushion very soft and comfy, would that be wrong ?

Don't invite pain, a posture should be such that you can forget your body. The posture should be steady and should be very, very blissful, comfortable, and never try to achieve postures which are uncomfortable.

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12 hours ago, Prabhaker said:

 

Psychological pain is part and parcel of the process of escape and resistance. Pain is not inherent in any feeling, but arises only after the intent to reject it arises. The moment you decide to reject something, pain arises. It is not really sadness that gives you pain. It is the interpretation that sadness is wrong that gives you pain, and that becomes a psychological problem.
 

 

I dont agree with this completely. As you said pain is caused by interpretation for example if something goes wrong for you but as soon as you reject the pain itself or the feeling which caused it pain becomes suffering.
I want to distinguish this because pain is a part of life it cant always be the way you want it to be but suffering on the other hand is the optional part if you reject it you will suffer.

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3 minutes ago, LaucherJunge said:

 if something goes wrong for you

I was talking about psychological pain, it something bad happens, I never resist  or escape from it, I only watch it, I watch sadness created by it. After a long journey I can remain detached to everything happening on my periphery. Keep patience, you will transform. 

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37 minutes ago, Prabhaker said:

I was talking about psychological pain, it something bad happens, I never resist  or escape from it, I only watch it, I watch sadness created by it. After a long journey I can remain detached to everything happening on my periphery. Keep patience, you will transform. 

Psychological pain is suffering. Thanks for the encouragement but i am not new to the spiritual path. 

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