How concerning is it that trust in the American government continues declining?

[Hardkill]

According this Pew Research article, "For years, public trust in the federal government has hovered at near-record lows. That remains the case today, as the United States struggles with a pandemic and economic recession. Just 20% of U.S. adults say they trust the government in Washington to “do the right thing” just about always or most of the time."

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2020/09/14/americans-views-of-government-low-trust-but-some-positive-performance-ratings/

Should Americans be worried about this?

[DJ]

Watching politicians is like watching an episode of the Jerry Springer show.

[Rilles]

Lack of trust in authority is one of the key signs of a coming revolution or fascism imo.

[Parththakkar12]

Do you know what this tells me? This tells me that the system is too hierarchical. The problem isn't some individual or some group of people, the problem is the system. The system is too top-down, too hierarchical, which is why the people feel like they have no say in what happens in the government.

What's needed is that we need to create a holarchical system that's more pragmatic and that shows better results than the hierarchical system currently there. If we're able to do that and compete against the current hierarchies, then we can transition into a world where the individual common person will have a lot more power!

Hint - World government is NOT it. Definitely not as the WEF had said, definitely not some sort of technocratic control-structure that will 'absolve you of all property-responsibilities'. The goal is to become more responsible, not less responsible and more dependent on the system like that. The system is created by you, not the other way around!

[Hardkill]

On 3/27/2021 at 3:59 AM, Parththakkar12 said:

Do you know what this tells me? This tells me that the system is too hierarchical. The problem isn't some individual or some group of people, the problem is the system. The system is too top-down, too hierarchical, which is why the people feel like they have no say in what happens in the government.

What's needed is that we need to create a holarchical system that's more pragmatic and that shows better results than the hierarchical system currently there. If we're able to do that and compete against the current hierarchies, then we can transition into a world where the individual common person will have a lot more power!

Hint - World government is NOT it. Definitely not as the WEF had said, definitely not some sort of technocratic control-structure that will 'absolve you of all property-responsibilities'. The goal is to become more responsible, not less responsible and more dependent on the system like that. The system is created by you, not the other way around!

How likely do you think that such a change will be made?

[Parththakkar12]

3 hours ago, Hardkill said:

How likely do you think that such a change will be made?

Pretty darn likely. It won't be 'made' by any individual in a position of power though, they'll want to hold on to power. What will happen though is that because the current hierarchies are so unsustainable, because the governments control everything to such an extreme degree such that they can lock everything down whenever they want, because they're printing money and that's what's running the economy, the hierarchy will naturally collapse. It's not at all sustainable!

The hierarchical control-structures are fundamentally unsound as systems and are fundamentally unhealthy for human health because they create a power-disparity. They don't respect the reality that all human beings have Infinite Free Will and Infinite power, they try to take away the power of those below and they give too much control to those above such that they can't manage it. All because people aren't stepping into their power, especially those below, especially the wage-slaves. This is a product of wage-slavery being the way humanity survives. Humanity can't survive too long on wage-slavery for far too long as a wage-slave is fundamentally a leech on the system, who provides little to no value to the system and the system holds back the wage-slaves from expressing their full potential because that doesn't serve the boss's best interests.

It is impossible for such a system to hold up long-term. What will naturally happen is that the hierarchies will collapse and we will enter a more holarchical, libertarian free-market system. Once everyone is free from enslavement to government and corporations and everyone is in their power, then they will come back and choose intentional communities and take full responsibility for the collective because they'll be in their Life Purpose! A wage-slave is a leech on the system because they don't even take personal responsibility. But, someone in their Life Purpose not only takes personal responsibility, they take collective responsibility which is what's needed for humanity to take on a form that aligns more with a One-world collective vision or an intentional-community approach. That's where we stand a real chance to create World Peace.

You can't do this with a World-government, you can't do this with a hierarchy, it has to be more holarchical! That's more natural. World Peace is impossible with hierarchical systems. Simply because people are too oppressed and enslaved!!

[Hardkill]

8 minutes ago, Parththakkar12 said:

Pretty darn likely. It won't be 'made' by any individual in a position of power though, they'll want to hold on to power. What will happen though is that because the current hierarchies are so unsustainable, because the governments control everything to such an extreme degree such that they can lock everything down whenever they want, because they're printing money and that's what's running the economy, the hierarchy will naturally collapse. It's not at all sustainable!

The hierarchical control-structures are fundamentally unsound as systems and are fundamentally unhealthy for human health because they create a power-disparity. They don't respect the reality that all human beings have Infinite Free Will and Infinite power, they try to take away the power of those below and they give too much control to those above such that they can't manage it. All because people aren't stepping into their power, especially those below, especially the wage-slaves. This is a product of wage-slavery being the way humanity survives. Humanity can't survive too long on wage-slavery for far too long as a wage-slave is fundamentally a leech on the system, who provides little to no value to the system and the system holds back the wage-slaves from expressing their full potential because that doesn't serve the boss's best interests.

It is impossible for such a system to hold up long-term. What will naturally happen is that the hierarchies will collapse and we will enter a more holarchical, libertarian free-market system. Once everyone is free from enslavement to government and corporations and everyone is in their power, then they will come back and choose intentional communities and take full responsibility for the collective because they'll be in their Life Purpose! A wage-slave is a leech on the system because they don't even take personal responsibility. But, someone in their Life Purpose not only takes personal responsibility, they take collective responsibility which is what's needed for humanity to take on a form that aligns more with a One-world collective vision or an intentional-community approach. That's where we stand a real chance to create World Peace.

You can't do this with a World-government, you can't do this with a hierarchy, it has to be more holarchical! That's more natural. World Peace is impossible with hierarchical systems. Simply because people are too oppressed and enslaved!!

Wait a minute. Having a libertarian free-market system through the entire country is a terrible idea. Even Leo talked about this in this vid of his: 

 

[Parththakkar12]

1 minute ago, Hardkill said:

Wait a minute. Having a libertarian free-market system through the entire country is a terrible idea. Even Leo talked about this in this vid of his: 

 

Leo didn't consider the possibility of - What would happen if hierarchical control-structures literally stopped working? What then? Then we wouldn't have the problem of the strong dominating the weak anymore! People would actually be free in that case. His problem was that 'libertarianism backfires in a counter-intuitive manner in that you abolish government to make the people free but actually, the strong dominate the weak and you'll be even more enslaved!! Right?!' Not if enslavement itself stops working as a tool for survival simply because the individuals are more empowered.

You won't have an option if the hierarchy literally collapses and there won't be a way of creating another one. You're saying that 'it's not a good idea' but you won't be given that choice if it collapses!

[hoodrow trillson]

Of course it’s sustainable.  People also get old and die and babies are born, go through brainwashing public school and are ready to work.  Perfect!  Rinse and repeat.

We also live in this hierarchy at the mercy of having the biggest stick in the world.  America learned very, very fast after WW2 that you need to be the biggest threat of violence in this world or you get fucked by everyone.

We have to solve the war thing before we can solve the government thing.  

If individuals become more empowered, who the fuck would go into the military?  Why would anyone be a wage-slave?  How are taxes going to be handled?  How then will the country continue to pay and keep it’s current ridiculous lead in terms of weapons technology and defenses?  The USA is decades ahead.

I’m all for being more empowered myself but other countries don’t play that same game and are salivating at the chance of taking down America a peg or two.

It’s super interesting to speculate though

 

 

[Hardkill]

17 hours ago, hoodrow trillson said:

Of course it’s sustainable.  People also get old and die and babies are born, go through brainwashing public school and are ready to work.  Perfect!  Rinse and repeat.

We also live in this hierarchy at the mercy of having the biggest stick in the world.  America learned very, very fast after WW2 that you need to be the biggest threat of violence in this world or you get fucked by everyone.

We have to solve the war thing before we can solve the government thing.  

If individuals become more empowered, who the fuck would go into the military?  Why would anyone be a wage-slave?  How are taxes going to be handled?  How then will the country continue to pay and keep it’s current ridiculous lead in terms of weapons technology and defenses?  The USA is decades ahead.

I’m all for being more empowered myself but other countries don’t play that same game and are salivating at the chance of taking down America a peg or two.

It’s super interesting to speculate though

 

 

Yeah, but I wonder how likely it would be that most Americans will try to attack the government one day.

[diamondpenguin]

Honestly, with Joe Biden in office, America is really starting to turn around. He values the hardworking men and women who built the country. I think he is definitely better than Bernie, and Donald. I have faith in Biden, all you doomsday preppers are wishing on the downfall of the United States. But, we will Unite in this chaos, just like we did in the depression, WW2, 911, the ending of the Civil War, the 2008 recession, and with Biden coming into office getting vaccines out. Joe Biden knows what he's doing, trust me. Bernie would kill the economy, and Trump was a disaster, Joe Biden definitely is our best bet. Joe Biden might just be one of our best president's yet guys. He's doing a hell of a job, so don't worry about it. It's gonna be ok.