David Hawkins is a fucking genius

[lmfao]

I'm gonna have to make a thread wanking this guy off, he's just too golden

I've never seen someone explain so well what honesty is and how to deal with negative emotion. As someone who experiences very intense negative emotions very frequently, I consider myself an expert in suffering and being miserable. Most of humans can relate to that, but I feel it in my case especially since I've been in deep pits of fear, anxiety, spite and depression. 

I don't like the numbers and LOC when taken to minutia, but his explanations of negative emotions, the significance of 200 in the bigger picture of what "truthfulness" is, is quite amazing. 
I'm not enough of an expert on high consciousness to comment on his scale much above 200.

(More introductory videos out there for him talking about honesty). Leo uploaded something on his blog with this guy on the same topic. Maybe watch that one first. 

His explanations and guidance for someone trapped at those levels is so on point that I'm left slightly shocked. Teaching you to fully be honest about your feelings, and explains how it's the narcissistic ego.  
But the great trick is that he doesn't make it a matter of shame. Take some negative trait you have. If you're petty, you acknowledge and admit that you're petty and accept the humour of it. And so you are confident yet have a certain kind of humbleness, even if you are obnoxious and stupid. 

What he explained about 200 just rang so many bells as experientially true for me and I understand what he means. [ 200 is called "courage". The courage to be honest. According to him it is the very first "truthful" field just above fields of "falsehood". e.g. the first step in AA recovery is an attempt at this]. 
I don't be honest because you worry you can't cope with the consequences or what you find. But the joke/trickiness of it all is that you don't get that strength unless you first jump off the cliff with honesty, and then it's given to you. 

Honesty about your flaws and your emotions is essentially the first and only step you have to focus on first. And it's a lot, lot easier said than done. I might do it a few times but 99% of the time I'm in my bad habits.

One thing which so true about it was how he explained that at this level of 200, you still feel all sorts of negative emotions, but you have the capacity to face it. But just because you can face it doesn't mean you're released from it. You feel the fear in your stomach, anxiety, desire, anger, all of it, even if you have the capacity to act and do something about it. And I feel that even that level is something I can only just about reach maybe 3% of the time. 

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Maybe I disagree with what he says about random topics, possible pathologies, or what he says about karma. But that doesn't matter to what wisdom and deadly accuracy he has about this. The first step to escaping from the hell is to drop all masks and pretences, and that just resonates and I intuit. And it's no trivial or easy sacrifice, it's like walking off a cliff, as he says. 

Continuously defying the automatic reflexes and conditioning, is how it's been for me to make progress. The automatic reflex and conditioning being to ignore the signals and instincts for what I truly want to be. So paradoxically, it's a reflex to ignore my reflexes 

Edited March 21, 2021 by lmfao

[freejoy]

@lmfao Yes his teachings are awesome.

I never had a "spiritual experience" until I started studying his work.

He mostly teaches the path of surrender. 

He talks about how drugs calibrate at like 85 loc.  They work by blocking the lower levels of ego but can give one a very high loc (level of consciousness) experience.

He says there are karmic consequences to taking short cuts to Enlightenment. But who knows what consequences they would be? Anyway, there are karmic consequences to everything we do!

Maybe the drug 5meo causes (which really there is no "cause and effect") problems in the body, like damages the liver or something? Most drugs do have side effects.

Is it worth it? Maybe?

I don't know if the calibration thing is true, could be made up but a very useful tool.

[Gabith]

I don't believe in karma.

There is nothing good or bad so why would I have to pay in another life if I take drugs to have spiritual experiences ?

Edited March 21, 2021 by Gabith

[freejoy]

Just now, Gabith said:

I don't believe in karma.

There is nothing good or bad so why if I take drugs to have spiritual experiences ?
Why would I have to pay it in another life ?

Karma isn't what you probably think it is. Hawkins explains karma in very much detail.

 

[Gabith]

@freejoy is there a video or something on this ? I'm interested

[freejoy]

@Gabith Look up David Hawkins karma on you tube you'll find some.