Posted March 11, 2021 So recently, Leo was explaining to me in that thread, Teal swan - what a woman needs from a man in a relationship, that most men are not really attracted to those who are or look like those skinny tomboy runway models and instead are really sexually attracted to women who are or who look like the sexiest pornstars with big boobs and/or big butts with small waists and attractive faces. Now, I personally totally agree with that. There are of course a number of mainstream female celebrities who are voluptuous such as Kylie Jenner, the Kardashian sisters, Halle Berry, Rachel McAdams, JLo, Amber Rose, Serena Williams, Liz Hurley, etc. Most people consider some of those women as gorgeous and consider others However, as we all know, there are hot female celebrities such as female mainstream tv or film actresses or female musicians or what have you who have been widely regarded as some of sexiest women in the world who have small breasts and small flat butts despite looking very feminine. Examples include Taylor Swift, Kylie Jenner, Megan Fox, Zoe Saldana, Gal Gadot, Jessica Alba, Amber Heard, Angelababy, etc. Even though looks or beauty is subjective to a degree, are the 2nd group of celebrities I just listed actually not really as sexually attractive as the top playmate models and top pornstars are? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) I remember how my ex bf used to say that he would be turned off by a big pair of tits. Edited March 11, 2021 by Preety_India INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 And I get turned off by big dicks. Attraction is highly subjective. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Preety_India said: I remember how my ex bf used to say that he would be turned off by a big pair of tits. 55 minutes ago, Preety_India said: And I get turned off by big dicks. Attraction is highly subjective. Well first off, I can't believe that you would be turned off by dicks. jk. lol Yes, of course looks and attraction are subjective. However, most men really aren't really turned on by women who look like beanpoles even if they have pretty faces, particularly if they look too boyish. I know I am not. Also, I rarely ever get off to or have an orgasm from visualizing or looking at pics of hot female celebrities like Jessica Alba or Taylor Swift who are skinny and have small boobs and butts. I wonder what guys like Leo think. Edited March 11, 2021 by Hardkill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 @Hardkill it's not about getting off. Everyone is not trying to jerk off all the time. Some guys might enjoy porn but that doesn't mean they are going to marry a pornstar. Maybe you watch too much porn. I don't know. My guy wasn't so much into porn. He wasn't addicted to it. He knew when to do and when to let go Not everyone is looking at life from the perspective of porn. Remember some people are also trying to do nofap.. By your logic, every wife would look like a porn star in this world. People get attracted to different kinds of people. There is nothing specific about attraction. A guy who is sitting in his car would automatically want to kiss his girlfriend even if she is a flat chested. No? That's how the whole planet is alive, or every girl would get fake tits. I don't ever remember any of my exes ever asking me my tit size or even focusing on what turns them on. The idea of sex itself turned them on. It was so natural, there was no need for them to think about it. The constant idea of porn is only seen on this forum. In real life, guys are so chill and I dost n't ever remember them talking about porn, not at least the way it is on this forum. Here it's almost pathological So whenever I come here, it feels like I'm in a "porn addict" atmosphere. Sorry to burst your bubble, but normal every day guys who are not on the internet are way better and not too hard core on sexuality. I remember my boyfriend saying "the guys who constantly talk about sex are the guys who never had sex." And that is so true. Because he had been married before. He knows what sex is. He never made a big deal out of it.You talk about sex like it's a diamond. Talk to married men who have sex from time to time. They are not so obsessed. I've had enough sex in all of my relationships combined. I almost satisfied my hunger. So sex is not on my mind 24/7. In fact these days I don't even pay attention to much of it. My desire for sex is fading because it doesn't matter so much after doing sex past 6 years. Sex would have been a big deal if I were a virgin. Now I hardly masturbate or have sex with my boyfriend. He too got better things to do. Life will be too miserable if I only focused on sex. The fact of the matter is just have sex and move on, rather than talking so much about it. Most guys here didn't get laid or aren't having sex so they talk too much about these things. That's why I never see my male friends talk about sex so much. Because they are sleeping with their girlfriends lol. Why will a man need porn if he just slept with his girlfriend? And you talked about how you would approach a woman online and directly talk about porn. To tell you the truth, I only hear these stories on this forum. But in real life, I was never approached by a guy who wants to start discussing porn right away. Nor was I ever attracted to a big dick. Most guys I dated had regular average size dicks and that was enough for me. The point I'm trying to make is that the world outside this forum is not so addicted to sex talk. People don't make a big deal out of it. They simply have sex and move on. The cure to the problem is having a girlfriend/boyfriend. Once you're in a relationship and having sex with your partner, and enjoying it then you will not talk so much about it. You won't need to. Now you are so fixated on it is because you aren't having sex in your life currently. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Preety_India said: @Hardkill it's not about getting off. Everyone is not trying to jerk off all the time. Some guys might enjoy porn but that doesn't mean they are going to marry a pornstar. Maybe you watch too much porn. I don't know. My guy wasn't so much into porn. He wasn't addicted to it. He knew when to do and when to let go Not everyone is looking at life from the perspective of porn. Remember some people are also trying to do nofap.. By your logic, every wife would look like a porn star in this world. People get attracted to different kinds of people. There is nothing specific about attraction. A guy who is sitting in his car would automatically want to kiss his girlfriend even if she is a flat chested. No? That's how the whole planet is alive, or every girl would get fake tits. I don't ever remember any of my exes ever asking me my tit size or even focusing on what turns them on. The idea of sex itself turned them on. It was so natural, there was no need for them to think about it. The constant idea of porn is only seen on this forum. In real life, guys are so chill and I dost n't ever remember them talking about porn, not at least the way it is on this forum. Here it's almost pathological So whenever I come here, it feels like I'm in a "porn addict" atmosphere. Sorry to burst your bubble, but normal every day guys who are not on the internet are way better and not too hard core on sexuality. I remember my boyfriend saying "the guys who constantly talk about sex are the guys who never had sex." And that is so true. Because he had been married before. He knows what sex is. He never made a big deal out of it.You talk about sex like it's a diamond. Talk to married men who have sex from time to time. They are not so obsessed. I've had enough sex in all of my relationships combined. I almost satisfied my hunger. So sex is not on my mind 24/7. In fact these days I don't even pay attention to much of it. My desire for sex is fading because it doesn't matter so much after doing sex past 6 years. Sex would have been a big deal if I were a virgin. Now I hardly masturbate or have sex with my boyfriend. He too got better things to do. Life will be too miserable if I only focused on sex. The fact of the matter is just have sex and move on, rather than talking so much about it. Most guys here didn't get laid or aren't having sex so they talk too much about these things. That's why I never see my male friends talk about sex so much. Because they are sleeping with their girlfriends lol. Why will a man need porn if he just slept with his girlfriend? And you talked about how you would approach a woman online and directly talk about porn. To tell you the truth, I only hear these stories on this forum. But in real life, I was never approached by a guy who wants to start discussing porn right away. Nor was I ever attracted to a big dick. Most guys I dated had regular average size dicks and that was enough for me. The point I'm trying to make is that the world outside this forum is not so addicted to sex talk. People don't make a big deal out of it. They simply have sex and move on. The cure to the problem is having a girlfriend/boyfriend. Once you're in a relationship and having sex with your partner, and enjoying it then you will not talk so much about it. You won't need to. Now you are so fixated on it is because you aren't having sex in your life currently. Your points are totally valid. However, people like Leo say that porn is a part of most guys' lives, regardless of how much sex he has had and that bigger breasts are always more appealing on women. Also, why do women with bigger boobs or bigger butts get more tips than girls who have smaller boobs and/or butts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hardkill said: Your points are totally valid. However, people like Leo say that porn is a part of most guys' lives, regardless of how much sex he has had and that bigger breasts are always more appealing on women. Also, why do women with bigger boobs or bigger butts get more tips than girls who have smaller boobs and/or butts? And why women like Jessica Alba have kids or women like Taylor Swift have boyfriends? Because they never got fucked? So who is fucking them? Aliens? INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, Preety_India said: And why women like Jessica Alba have kids or women like Taylor Swift have boyfriends? Because they never got fucked? So who is fucking them? Aliens? Yeah, I know. Though I wonder why Taylor Swift keeps losing boyfriends? lol So, then what do you think Leo is saying? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Hardkill said: Taylor Swift, Kylie Jenner, Megan Fox, Zoe Saldana, Gal Gadot, Jessica Alba, Amber Heard, Angelababy, I am 100% on this camp Mod close this thread please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 Just now, Hardkill said: Yeah, I know. Though I wonder why Taylor Swift keeps losing boyfriends? lol So, then what do you think Leo is saying? So are you telling me that she is losing her boyfriends because of her flat chest? Then why are they her boyfriends in the first place? There are a billion flat chested women who are married and have kids on this planet. And a billion men with small dicks who have girlfriends and wives. What attracts you doesn't always mean that other men are going to think like you. Just because Leo likes a big pair of tits (although the truth could be too far from it) it doesn't mean it becomes the truth for all the men in the world Just because some woman got turned on by a big dick, doesn't mean that every woman has to gush over big dicks. Every one likes different things and they are going to have sex for different reasons.. Stop generalizing attraction. It's not the same for everyone. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Preety_India said: And I get turned off by big dicks. Attraction is highly subjective. Is it possible that this attraction doesn't suit your survival? and so its being suppressed? Being controlled by men could be a issue for women. Sex is a common reason for a relationship last way past its expiry date. Edited March 11, 2021 by integral How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, integral said: Is it possible that this attraction doesn't suit your survival? and so its being suppressed? Being controlled by men could be a issue for women. Sex is a common reason for a relationship last way past its expiry date. Attraction is subjective. Finish. No need to create alternative theories around it. People's brains are all differently wired. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 @Preety_India I disagree, its completely flexible and adaptive. How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 @integral that's why I called it subjective. It can't be fixed by one type. The examples are around you. INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, Preety_India said: Attraction is subjective. Finish. No need to create alternative theories around it. People's brains are all differently wired Translation "Different for everyone for no discernible reason" That network of values you have knows exactly what it wants and why. Why say that these stories dont matter when there the centre focus of your life. How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 1 minute ago, integral said: Translation "Different for everyone for no discernible reason" That network of values you have knows exactly what it wants and why. Why say that these stories dont matter when there the centre focus of your life. The moral of the story is that attraction is not absolute or defined by fixed ways. Some people like this. Some people like that. It's similar to food. Because sex is a hunger So some people like Arabic coffee. Some people like espresso. You can't generalise it INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) @Preety_India This is mixing up biological wiring with higher values. Leos big tits position is about biology. There are generalized scientifically proven wirings of the brain from birth. Like the shape of a womens body to heterosexual men. After that there is a higher cognitive layer of values that is adaptive. Tasty food has a generalized component, thats why mcdonalds is so popular. Edited March 11, 2021 by integral How is this post just me acting out my ego in the usual ways? Is this post just me venting and justifying my selfishness? Are the things you are posting in alignment with principles of higher consciousness and higher stages of ego development? Are you acting in a mature or immature way? Are you being selfish or selfless in your communication? Are you acting like a monkey or like a God-like being? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 @integral both gets wired biologically eventually. People are born in different geographies. Most men in my place don't have a big dick. They have small or average dicks. So biologically I'm trained to like what is given to me. Adaptation is also a part of biology. Everything is biology. Some elephants have big ears and some elephants have small ears depending on geography. Can we decide which one is better? Biology is constantly changing to adapt to the environment. There is nothing wrong or right about it. It's all about survival with respect to the environment. So my biology dictates me to like small dicks because that's what my brain has been wired to like through evolution. This is not a question of high values or low values at all. It is about accepting the fact that everyone's biology is going to be different and has independently evolved and no biology is right or wrong because biology is in context with the Environment and not an absolute concept. So you can't tell me that liking small dicks is wrong because my biology has adapted to what is given to me evolution wise INFJ-T,ptsd,BPD, autism, anger issues Cleared out ignore list today. .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted March 11, 2021 @Hardkill I don't like big boobs, moderate size is the best Skinny models are very attractive just not extremely skinny "Buddhism is for losers and those who will die one day." -- Kenneth Folk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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