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The Reason This Is All So Confusing Is That It Ceases To Make Sense When Someone Else Says It.

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Think about it, if i let go, and my mind goes quiet, and I see the truth.  it's alot like how people describe it, how theirs like just existence and conciousness but not individual beings  or doers or a self or anything like that.  But when someone else says this to you, it doesn't make sense, during the time you are entertaining what they are saying you won't be able to understand.  Because you have to imagine that they are the seat of awareness or at least A awareness.  So when you could just be nothing and things could be as they are, now all the sudden you're trying to imagine how this other guy is an eyeball of awarenss and so are you and there are a whole bunch and now it just doesnt' make any sense any more.   I mean,  I can't really see another awareness, can I? I can only think of one, but what to do when you're really convinced there are other centeres of awareness out there, during the time you are considering these other centers of awareness it seems you can't go into the pure state of just being.

 

Like if i said to you, I am pure awareness, nothing and everything, the center of existence,  That's not really true for you is it, I'm just something in your show, and also if you believe that we all have our "show" and the other people are pretend things in it, that doesn't really jive to well either.  So you're only option is to let go, don't think, be, yadda yadda, and you can see how things are but when you think about the very seemingly reasonable idea that actually all the other beings are exactly the same way, suddenly by thinking ssomething that is probably true, you can't connect with the experienced truth.  So can someone explain to me how to reconcile this?

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First off, it is important to understand the difference between nonexistence and unreal. We do exist, but we are unreal in the sense that something that is real is always real, meaning that it is permanent. So in terms of apparent reality, we do exist and it does appear to be a duality. However, reality is non-dual, your awareness is not different from my awareness, just as any emotion that you feel is no different from any emotion that I would feel. The circumstances or experiences can and likely will be different, but the awareness that knows those experiences is the same. Regardless of how much you learn about enlightenment or possibly have transcendental experiences (which are not actually important at all, contrary to what most people seem to believe) you have, you will never actually perceive oneness. You will just know that oneness is always occurring because all objects appear in you and are composed of you, awareness. What you experience is apparent reality, it is always changing and it is not necessarily true (something that is true is always true and nothing in experience other than awareness is always true). The disconnect is between knowledge and experience. Knowledge tells us one thing, but we experience something else. The problem is that intuition derived as a result of experience is often wrong. Proper knowledge, from a proven teaching, provides the tools for liberation. Individual experiences and insights virtually never do so. 

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