Biden's First Act Of War Hits 3 Countries

[Woke456]

10 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

The claim that scientists told people not to wear masks is something that circulated in the Conspiracy Theory community as a Bad Faith effort to discredit epidemiologists such as Dr. Fauci and to absolve Trump's culpability for his failure to adopt measures to address the pandemic. These are literally the same tactics that Bad Faith actors use to discredit climate change; they cherry pick any minor qualified reservation they can find and conflate that to try and discredit the entire scientific establishment.

Democratic states tend to be much more urbanized and thus have higher population densities than the largely rural Republican states, which is why they were hit harder in the initial stages of the pandemic. States that adopted mask mandates and stay at home orders were more successful in containing the spread of new cases. This is the same kind of idiocy as when you hear Right Wingers say that systemic racism doesn't exist because of 'black on black crime'; it's a Bad Faith oversimplification that intentionally disregards the underlying context surrounding the issue.

Trump not having a plan to distribute vaccines was from Biden's transition team, who were left holding the flaming garbage bag that Trump left them. His 'plan' was to leave the States to figure it out, without any coordinated help or action from the Federal Government.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29T0FY

 

 

They actually said not to wear masks because there was a supply shortage, and they wanted to save the masks for doctors.  But they lied about the reasoning for the first three weeks.

Oh and lmao.  You're saying the political opponents of trump are trying to take credit for vaccinations.   Of course they said that because they want credit, not the Trump administration.  This is like kindergarten level social dynamics that we all learned at age 3.

There's also a number of factors besides urbanization in covid.  Like, do old people live downtown or more in rural areas?  Where are the obese people?  I bet you there's more obese Americans than Belgians.  Do Italians smoke more than Germans?  Are Vietnamese used to wearing masks because they drive scooters in dusty or smoggy streets?  Do Dutch people visit their grandparents?  The answer is YOU don't know.

 

[Hardkill]

33 minutes ago, Woke456 said:

They actually said not to wear masks because there was a supply shortage, and they wanted to save the masks for doctors.  But they lied about the reasoning for the first three weeks.

Oh and lmao.  You're saying the political opponents of trump are trying to take credit for vaccinations.   Of course they said that because they want credit, not the Trump administration.  This is like kindergarten level social dynamics that we all learned at age 3.

There's also a number of factors besides urbanization in covid.  Like, do old people live downtown or more in rural areas?  Where are the obese people?  I bet you there's more obese Americans than Belgians.  Do Italians smoke more than Germans?  Are Vietnamese used to wearing masks because they drive scooters in dusty or smoggy streets?  Do Dutch people visit their grandparents?  The answer is YOU don't know.

 

Dude, the medical experts did not lie about the masks. They at first weren't sure and didn't know much about the virus considering how novel and unusual of a disease it was back then. Also, much of science is trial and error and experimentation when dealing with a whole new situation or developing a brand new concept or method for something.

Edited March 7, 2021 by Hardkill

[Woke456]

2 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

Dude, the medical experts did not lie about the masks. They at first weren't sure and didn't know much about the virus considering how novel and unusual of a disease it was back then. Also, much of science is trial and error and experimentation when dealing with a whole new situation or developing a brand new concept or method for something.

They knew doctors should use it, and they also knew the Asians were using masks.  

[DocWatts]

59 minutes ago, Woke456 said:

They actually said not to wear masks because there was a supply shortage, and they wanted to save the masks for doctors.  But they lied about the reasoning for the first three weeks.

Oh and lmao.  You're saying the political opponents of trump are trying to take credit for vaccinations.   Of course they said that because they want credit, not the Trump administration.  This is like kindergarten level social dynamics that we all learned at age 3.

There's also a number of factors besides urbanization in covid.  Like, do old people live downtown or more in rural areas?  Where are the obese people?  I bet you there's more obese Americans than Belgians.  Do Italians smoke more than Germans?  Are Vietnamese used to wearing masks because they drive scooters in dusty or smoggy streets?  Do Dutch people visit their grandparents?  The answer is YOU don't know.

Trump's entire modus oprandi was to defund and dismantle the state, including Public Health and Safety measures. Him not having a plan in place to distribute vaccines is consistent with withdrawing from the WHO, underfunding and dismantling public health measures, and attempting to shift blame onto the governors rather than taking an active leadership role during a national emergency.

Edited March 7, 2021 by DocWatts

[Woke456]

@DocWatts Lol, I'm pretty sure the US was one of the first countries to start delivering the vaccine.

[DocWatts]

16 minutes ago, Woke456 said:

@DocWatts Lol, I'm pretty sure the US was one of the first countries to start delivering the vaccine.

We can thank the ingenuity of scientists for managing to come up with a vaccine within a year, rather than anything Trump did. Trump and the Republican should not be credited when they are diametrically opposed to investments in Public Health and Scientific Research; the Covid vaccine exists in spite of Trump's administration, not because of it. The fact that he didn't have a game plan for what to do once vaccines became available is just one more point which goes to show how negligent his administration was during a National Emergency.

Edited March 7, 2021 by DocWatts

[Woke456]

@DocWatts They spent quite a bit of money funding the vaccines and fast-tracked it for FDA approval.  And lol, the Biden people's claim that there wasn't a game plan isn't a fact.  It's a claim by a political campaign.

 

 

 

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, Woke456 said:

They knew doctors should use it, and they also knew the Asians were using masks.  

No, they weren't 100% certain about that at first.

 

9 minutes ago, Woke456 said:

@DocWatts They spent quite a bit of money funding the vaccines and fast-tracked it for FDA approval.  And lol, the Biden people's claim that there wasn't a game plan isn't a fact.  It's a claim by a political campaign.

 

 

 

The Pfizer and Moderna, which were the only two companies that finally achieved success with creating vaccines for people about a month before Trump's term ended, both said that they in no way allowed the Trump's administration to pressure or influence them to speed up the development of their vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna wanted to take as much time as they needed according to how comfortable they felt and thought because they knew that simply rushing the vaccine making process would more than likely significantly increase the risk of making serious mistakes with their vaccines.

[Woke456]

6 hours ago, Hardkill said:

No, they weren't 100% certain about that at first.

 

The Pfizer and Moderna, which were the only two companies that finally achieved success with creating vaccines for people about a month before Trump's term ended, both said that they in no way allowed the Trump's administration to pressure or influence them to speed up the development of their vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna wanted to take as much time as they needed according to how comfortable they felt and thought because they knew that simply rushing the vaccine making process would more than likely significantly increase the risk of making serious mistakes with their vaccines.

By fasttracking, that means the Trump administration moved it to the front of the FDA's queue.  That's all it means.

 

[Hardkill]

1 minute ago, Woke456 said:

By fasttracking, that means the Trump administration moved it to the front of the FDA's queue.  That's all it means.

 

okay. Though that was expected given emergency of the situation we have been in. Besides, that in itself didn't really do much to speed up the making and delivering of the vaccines.

[Epikur]