General Anesthesia Question + Sidestory

[Just Timothy]

Hi! Tomorrow morning (12 hours left!) I will be given general anesthesia shot due to broken arm. Does anyone here experienced any mystical states during it’s duration? Is it worth to try not to fall asleep? Will it be spooky? Any suggestion for this type of experience?

@Leo Gura Never tagged you before, but this time I will really appreciate your suggestions 

 

Sidestory: I was arm wrestling with my friend during 2cb trip feeling really powerful, giving everything to win, I was trying to become force itself. Then my arm just broke with LOUD excruciating sound.  Firstly I didn’t know what the fuck just happened. Then I ran to the bathroom shocked, to put it into cold water.  After that I was walking around with part of my arm just hanging in there detached, it was horrifying as hell, I remembered my breakthrough dmt trip instantly. I was loosing my physical shape, it felt like I was falling into void.
 

 I walked into my living room and tried to lay down slowly.  In one single moment I realized that I broke my arm with my own force, I did my best and it was quite powerful, Carlos Castaneda like, moment for me. I was sweating horribly, feeling fear sometimes but generally I was at pure bliss, feeling happy and peaceful as I am not my body and there is nothing to worry about. Like I didn’t even feel pain at all. Everyone was trying to cheer me up, I was very grateful for that. Then ambulance team came and I switched back to normal state. I feel like to really work on my health after the surgery is done.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Just Timothy

[Carl-Richard]

See what happens if you meditate during the prep and while you're being put under.

[Moksha]

I've only been under anesthesia once, but believe me, when it hits, you have no choice but to go under. The cord is severed. Meditate all you want, it's still 3...2...1...lights OUT. 

Human consciousness is precarious. You can be conscious one moment, and then go deeply, cleanly out, the next. When I woke up, it was the most rested I had felt in years.

Don't confuse human consciousness with ultimate Consciousness. We, as Consciousness, never go out. We only change states of Self-awareness.

[Just Timothy]

53 minutes ago, Just Timothy said:

24 minutes ago, Moksha said:

I've only been under anesthesia once, but believe me, when it hits, you have no choice but to go under. The cord is severed. Meditate all you want, it's still 3...2...1...lights OUT. 

Human consciousness is precarious. You can be conscious one moment, and then go deeply, cleanly out, the next. When I woke up, it was the most rested I had felt in years.

Don't confuse human consciousness with ultimate Consciousness. We, as Consciousness, never go out. We only change states of Self-awareness.

 

[Just Timothy]

Sry for last spam post, was trying to reply to Moksha’s answer but stumbled upon weird bugs. 
 

@Moksha thank you, your answer was quite sobering. 
 

Btw updated first post with sidestory 

[Leo Gura]

I did anesthesia last year. It feels exactly like falling asleep. Nothing special about it at all. You fall asleep within seconds and wake up as if nothing happened.

I woke up feeling very well-rested, even though I was only under for 30 minutes. It felt more like I slept for 8 hours.

[Jodistrict]

When I was a child, I was put under with Ether for an operation.  It did cause hallucinations when I was going under.  With the modern anesthesia, you just go out and wake up when its over.  

[Forestluv]

@Just Timothy I've been under full anesthesia twice. No way would I try to stay awake. There is a reason they put you under.

For me, it was like one minute I'm awake asking questions and the next minute I'm out. 

My first experience under full anesthesia wasn't like sleep. There is different brain activity. When I wake up from sleep, I generally know that I had been sleeping and for roughly how long. Yet when I revived after full anesthesia, it was like I had died, my body was cryogenically preserved and then I was revived. For a while, I had no idea where I was or for how long I was under. My first question to the nurses was "when is it?". They could have told me two years had past. 

My second experience was very different. I had to return to the same hospital a month later for a second procedure. It was the same nurses. This time, I was aware of being in the ER and was asking questions. The nurses laughed and said "You asked the same questions last time, you won't remember any of this". I replied "Oh yes I will". They all laughed and said "You said the same thing last time". . . Yet this time, I remembered a neurological trick to put a stake in the ground and remember everything up to that point. I asked the nurse "What is your favorite animal?". She said "Koala Bear". This reminded me of when I saw a Koala Bear while in Australia. . . Then I was out. A couple hours later, I regained consciousness and she was the first nurse I saw. I smiled at her and said "Koala Bear". She was shocked. . . I remembered everything in the OR up to that moment. This time, the full anesthesia felt more like a deep sleep. 

I wouldn't try to maintain awareness the whole time. Yet if you want to remember the process of going under, ask one of the nurses a simple question with a one word answer. You may remember everything up to that point. 

[Blackhawk]

@Just Timothy Congratulations.

I love being put under general anesthesia. 

For me it wasn't like normal sleep. It was much better than that. In normal sleep I have some kind of basic perception of time or dreams or something, difficult to explain. But in general anesthesia it was totally lights out. No difference between 1 minute or 10000000000 years, in normal sleep the difference would defi-fucking-nitely be super obvious. It's so fucking fascinating. Mind blowing. I want to experience it again. Like, how the fuck is it possible.

Enjoy the expe.. Sorry I mean the mindblowingly total lack of experience.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Blackhawk

[Snader]

When my broken collarbone was operated when I was 18 I was sure in my mind that the anesthesia stuff wouldn't work on me that I could resist falling asleep if I wanted to. So I decided to do that. I was really confident I can pull that off.

The doctor gave me the dosage and said ''good night'' and I in my mind I was like ''haha good try u ain't getting me that easy''.

Went totally blank few seconds later. Latest memory I had when I woke up was that arrogant thought I had before I passed out

 

[commie]

19 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

In normal sleep I have some kind of basic perception of time or dreams or something, difficult to explain. But in general anesthesia it was totally lights out.

Same, but I don't want to experience it again because I was fucked up when I came back. The staff seemed to be worried about my vitals (though that may have been a tactic to get me to remain conscious). I was a bit high on the drug for a day or so after that. Nothing like a trip but simply closing my eyes would get me flying every which way and stuff. I don't know if it was the drug or the dose but I do remember passing out so that drug musn't affect memory much, unless I made up the whole thing with the anesthesia specialist making me count and so forth.

That was for serious surgery. I've also had a short pass-out anesthesia with a different drug a non-specialist was authorized to use and that had few if any side effects (though they told me I wasn't supposed to drive afterwards). I don't remember passing out from that one so maybe it does affect memory.

[The0Self]

I've had a few surgeries, and also know quite a bit about this, as I was pre-med a few years ago and was very passionate about the whole thing.

They usually give you a dissociative anesthetic such as ketamine or nitrous oxide, combined with a GABA-A modulator such as midazolam, for the purpose of producing unconsciousness. For deep anesthesia they'll often give you fentanyl as well, inducing a pseudo-opioid-OD but they'll ventilate you so you don't die; possibly barbiturates and/or propofol. You won't be able to stay aware. The experience will generally be one of feeling the onset of anesthetic effects... and then being told the procedure is over. Unlike sleep, anesthesia doesn't just suppress memory, it actually causes unconsciousness, which from your perspective, doesn't exist, so you just teleport/time-travel in zero time to the point where they take you off the drugs.

With only the dissociative (without the GABA-A modulator or the fentanyl) you would very likely remember the experience, and it can be a powerful spiritual experience. But that won't be the case.

Edited March 2, 2021 by The0Self

[blankisomeone]

I was put under general anesthesia once… IT WAS A BLANK SO BLANK I CANT EVEN DESCRIBE. It was just blank blank blank, nothing, nada! Absolute nothing. Not nothing in the sense of infinite love god nothing, no. It was just freaking NOTHING.? So weird how it works... that thing just freaking shuts you down.

Sort of like how I used to imagine death itself to be like...

Edited March 4, 2021 by blankisomeone

[Moksha]

Maybe anesthesia is the new 5-MeO-DMT