An Important Metric: The Prettier the Girl = The Dumber & Shallower the Guy Selected

[Jacobsrw]

As crude and as pictorial as this title appears to be, this metric seems to be generally maintained in western societies. Of course there are outliers but these remain few and far between. I found this with friends of mine that are female as well as past partners.

Women between ages 20-30 tend to base their attraction on the toxic superficialities of a male.  beyond this age their attraction seems to be derived from places other than purely this. Some of these superficialities include: looks, macho bravado, egotistical, uneducated (or low involvement in education), status driven, hedonistic, daring, bad-boy attitude, party goer, arrogance, obnoxiousness, fashionable, non-emotional, non-reflective or spiritual etc. need I continue. 

It seems to work both ways too. The more these superficial features are exhibited in a male, the more he will attract the prettier girl.

This seems obvious but once you've taken time to observe such a social movement it becomes comical and extremely illuminating. You can almost estimate the oscillation, duration and quality of ones relationships by this very metric. It opens ones eyes to the level of psychology younger adults seems to be operating from in a western demographic. Human behaviour seems to be more predictable of course, but more importantly you also see where you can be of support to those lost within these notions.

I assume many women will object to such a claim, as it would seem to undermine their dignity. However, I would disagree. I would argue it undermines the deep meaning of sexuality and attraction. Males undervalue what it means to really be a man thus, select the most obnoxious characteristics by which to operate. Females buy into these traits due to sociological shifts and trends that churn through culture. Whats also undermined is our social systems, those which educate and influence prototypical change.

Without judgement I implore those skeptical to explore this trend. It’s astonishingly pervasive, more so than we’d probably like to admit.

 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Jacobsrw

[The0Self]

The prettier the girl, the less apparently needy the guy selected. Dumb and shallow often means detached and seemingly un-needy. That's not the only way to be (or seem to be) un-needy, it's just the most common way to seem so, which has led you to your incomplete conclusion.

Edited February 23, 2021 by The0Self

[Heaven]

If you live in modern society survival is a crucial part. What you see as egoistical behaviors are just “proof” that one is good in survival.

If you will notice also your life is driven by that so don’t be too judgmental about it..and if not it’s because you’re lucky so just be grateful with life and compassionate towards the other.

 

 

[Jacobsrw]

1 hour ago, Etherial Cat said:

What you describe is the typical outcome of growing up in a stage Orange society. Both male and female are bombarded with these type of social representation through medias., which turn them into ideals to chase.

They just don't know better until they figure out that a lot of this is bullshit. It takes a bit of experience to wear off.

Some can even stay in it for a lifetime, though.

Very true. It’s frightening to see though. I was aware of this many years prior but to see it action on the day to day is something else.

 Yeah my hope is this is just a stage for most people

[Jacobsrw]

4 hours ago, The0Self said:

The prettier the girl, the less apparently needy the guy selected. Dumb and shallow often means detached and seemingly un-needy. That's not the only way to be (or seem to be) un-needy, it's just the most common way to seem so, which has led you to your incomplete conclusion.

That’s probably a better way to put it. However, I’d argue many men whom fall into these categories are extremely needy. For example, I man driven by status and appearance is completely dependent on the opinions of others to maintain him. Thus, he will deploy all energy in effort to achieve receiving them. Perfect example are public figures and influencers. Another example is the party goer or hedonist type still exercises neediness by virtue of requiring material objects and others to validate their activities and participate in them.

In fact, you could argue that these characteristics “appear” non-needy but in fact are.

Edited February 24, 2021 by Jacobsrw

[Jacobsrw]

1 hour ago, Heaven said:

If you live in modern society survival is a crucial part. What you see as egoistical behaviors are just “proof” that one is good in survival.

If you will notice also your life is driven by that so don’t be too judgmental about it..and if not it’s because you’re lucky so just be grateful with life and compassionate towards the other.

 

 

Thats true.

However, your second statement is quite the naive assumption. Previously I would be completely egocentric and concerned with these matters but nowadays I have become the complete inverse. Self-development, study and spirituality tends to lead one to new terrain.

I would say I am grateful for my situation but also passionate to change this dynamic. Hence, my post here and my current involvement in the field of healthcare and Human Resources. These delusional notions need to be seen for what they are, not untenably criticised. If you but read with an open mind I was simply making an observation not a judgment. 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Jacobsrw

[Leo Gura]

Well, the smartest guys are not out at parties where the hottest girls are, they are locked in a basement doing serious work. So of course the hottest girls tend to get with the party guys. She can't suck your dick if you're locked in a basement doing rocket science.

But also, be careful with your simplistic and victim-mindset reinforcing stereotypes. If you are so smart and deep, how about you use a bit of those smarts to lure in a hot girl? Maybe you ain't as smart as you think

[Jacobsrw]

12 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, the smartest guys are not out at parties where the hottest girls are, they are locked in a basement doing serious work. So of course the hottest girls tend to get with the party guys. She can't suck your dick if you're locked in a basement doing rocket science.

But also, be careful with your simplistic and victim-mindset reinforcing stereotypes. If you are so smart and deep, how about you use a bit of those smarts to lure in a hot girl? Maybe you ain't as smart as you think

Fair point. Except you’re forgetting the billionaires who apparently the “smarts” which then pulls extremely shallow women. They of course are anomalies. 

My aim was to identify enduring personality characteristics not box people into them. Anyone can grow.

Hahaha not to be rude, but I don’t find a girl of such standards holistically attractive anymore. They tend to be as shallow as the men they pursue, so I’d rather not. Previously when I was working out and shallow myself I would attract prettier women but undesirable as of now. If you are as attractive as Scarlett Johansson and as deep thinking as a brick I’ll be looking elsewhere. Attractiveness is important but that which lies behind it is far more.

Ps. I never said I was smart, I would say I am far more conscientious. Take that as you will

Edited February 24, 2021 by Jacobsrw

[Hello from Russia]

1 hour ago, Jacobsrw said:

Fair point. Except you’re forgetting the billionaires who apparently the “smarts” which then pulls extremely shallow women. They of course are anomalies. 

My aim was to identify enduring personality characteristics not box people into them. Anyone can grow.

Hahaha not to be rude, but I don’t find a girl of such standards holistically attractive anymore. They tend to be as shallow as the men they pursue, so I’d rather not. Previously when I was working out and shallow myself I would attract prettier women but undesirable as of now. If you are as attractive as Scarlett Johansson and as deep thinking as a brick I’ll be looking elsewhere. Attractiveness is important but that which lies behind it is far more.

Ps. I never said I was smart, I would say I am far more conscientious. Take that as you will

@Jacobsrw dude, ur projecting a lot. How do you know women that millionaires sleep with are shallow? On what basis do you make this assumption? 

In my own research it is actually quite the opposite. These guys can get any pussy the want with their money and status, so it isn't an issue for them anymore and from that point they focus way more on a deep meaningful connection

You seem to demonize wealthy people, but they are not as dumb as you think. Usually it's quite the opposite

With pretties girls it's just they get very popular due to their attractiveness, so a lot of people naturally hit on them. Statistically speaking average extraverts are way dumber than introverts so this is what you see. 

The problem with girls that are more deep but has less is a marketing. It is the same problem as introverted guys face. In a sense, the "richness" of psyche is as attractive if not more than physical appearance. The problem, however, that to get to know your "deepness", people will need to get to know you first and spend lots of time, while looks work as an instantly apparent metric. So you see this disproportion happening

I bet many girls actually prefer introverted smart guys way more than your typical socializing extravert. But it's just Leo is right, these more smart deep guys prefer to sit in their basements and it's hard for women to meet them

Edited February 24, 2021 by Hello from Russia

[StarStruck]

Getting a girl is not even that difficult. Even the dumbest people in the world can get a girl. The hardest thing is to work on yourself and solve your neurotic behavior. Once you solve yourself, getting an average girl is like scratching your butt.

Look at it like this: do animals like birds have trouble attracting mates? No, they don't as long as they are traumatized by something. They just use their instinct and intuition. It is the same for human.

Attraction shouldn't require effort. Seduction does. I'm not good at seduction and I'm not focusing on that at the moment.

[Jacobsrw]

1 hour ago, Hello from Russia said:

@Jacobsrw dude, ur projecting a lot. How do you know women that millionaires sleep with are shallow? On what basis do you make this assumption? 

In my own research it is actually quite the opposite. These guys can get any pussy the want with their money and status, so it isn't an issue for them anymore and from that point they focus way more on a deep meaningful connection

You seem to demonize wealthy people, but they are not as dumb as you think. Usually it's quite the opposite

With pretties girls it's just they get very popular due to their attractiveness, so a lot of people naturally hit on them. Statistically speaking average extraverts are way dumber than introverts so this is what you see. 

The problem with girls that are more deep but has less is a marketing. It is the same problem as introverted guys face. In a sense, the "richness" of psyche is as attractive if not more than physical appearance. The problem, however, that to get to know your "deepness", people will need to get to know you first and spend lots of time, while looks work as an instantly apparent metric. So you see this disproportion happening

I bet many girls actually prefer introverted smart guys way more than your typical socializing extravert. But it's just Leo is right, these more smart deep guys prefer to sit in their basements and it's hard for women to meet them

I’m not sure I would say it’s projection. You could say that, but I am merely stating what is seemingly evident in culture. It’s both observable and testimonial. Please explore this and see for yourself if it holds true.

I make that assumption based on the culture from which these women derive themselves. That being, internet culture, public figures and celebrity influencers. This culture is wrought with materialistic and shallow interests. Explore the demographic of millionaires and you will see most of their partners are models, celebrities or media influencers. Neither of these domains provide deep value, if you think otherwise that is a view I fail to concur with.

I don’t completely agree with your last statement. Many of these men are just not found to be attractive to women I have described. A man with a purpose may seem attractive due to his motivation for success. However, to a woman so involved in her appearance she cares more about the time you have to validate her opposed to the time spent on your career. A super creative male in the zone with his career is not going to appear attractive if he isn’t emotionally available. Hence a woman is less likely to be attracted.

Edited February 24, 2021 by Jacobsrw

[Hello from Russia]

@Jacobsrw to be honest I feel there is personal frustration with a subject rather than some truly impartial observations

I wonder what's your personal story with women and how are you doing on that front? Can it be that you're just excusing away your own struggles with dating via these lines of reasoning? 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, Jacobsrw said:

Fair point. Except you’re forgetting the billionaires who apparently the “smarts” which then pulls extremely shallow women. They of course are anomalies.

Billionaires pull shallow women? Says who? Billionaires are pulling whoever they want, basically, and I tend to see them with quality women.

Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos -- they aren't exactly dating bimbo supermodels or pornstars. They find wife-material ladies with some depth.

But basically, when you are a billionaire, you have enough value and leverage to find a woman optimized in all dimensions you care about.

Power and status are the ultimate game. If you want quality women, don't go to the club, become a multi-millionaire somebody and women will come to you. The wise hunter does not stalk rabbits one-by-one in the freezing cold, he lays a trap and rests easy by the cozy fire back home.

[Preety_India]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos -- they aren't exactly dating bimbo supermodels or pornstars. They find wife-material ladies with some depth.

Meanwhile someone wants a new supermodel every week.   

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Preety_India

[Hulia]

3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Meanwhile someone wants a new supermodel every week.   

 

I don´t know what is worse - supermodel or "wife-material ladies optimized in all dimensions"

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Hulia

[Hello from Russia]

13 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Meanwhile someone wants a new supermodel every week.   

 

That's just a cultural narrative of people who hate capitalism or have issues, honestly. I bet people who say such things didn't ever check who these billionaire guys are actually dating. It could actually be a very mind-opening exercise - go check top 50 forbes and see what kind of girls they are dating/married if you dare. But none of these people usually check these things, they just say whatever is convenient to justify their biases without much regard to truth

I personally checked family lives of 100s of various succesful or in any way remarkable people to notice patterns/get insights that I can use for myself. These people, in general, are EXTREMELY cognizant or who they are getting involved with and don't have as simple standards as OP or people like him suggest. But check for yourself, do your own research

Edited February 24, 2021 by Hello from Russia

[Preety_India]

13 minutes ago, Hulia said:

I don´t know what is worse - supermodel or "wife-material ladies optimized in all dimensions"

 

 

11 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

That's just a cultural narrative of people who hate capitalism or have issues, honestly. I bet people who say such things didn't ever check who these billionaire guys are actually dating. It could actually be a very mind-opening exercise - to check top 50 forbes and see what kind of girls they are dating/married if you dare. But none of these people usually check these things, they just say whatever is convenient to justify their biases without much regard to truth

Lol

 

You guys and gals  are predictable. 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Preety_India

[Frenk]

3 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

 

What in the schwarzkopf hair models is this??

[Preety_India]

@Frenk . It's a cute picture of Leo though. 

 

[Espaim]

9 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

 

Idk what to feel about this image