Why is happiness not possible without enlightenment?

[actualizing25]

In Leos video "65 Core Principles Of Living The Good Life"  he says that happiness is not possible without enlightenment and that enlightenment is the only way to become happy. Why can't one be happy without enlightenment? Is it true that enlightenment is the only way? Im just asking out of curiosity.

 

Thanks guys:D

[TheSelf]

The real happiness is not a change to your natural state by doing something which is just a form of distraction from the emptiness within "you" do caused by wrong identifications you have with your ego-mind. Being means happiness. You exist! So you can only be happy about it. So existence is happiness, you'll realize this if you train your eyes to see all subtlest mind's projections and tricks it plays on "you" and finally remove your identifications with it.

Edited February 16, 2021 by m0hsen

[Leo Gura]

@actualizing25 How can you be happy if you think you were born and will die?

[actualizing25]

@Leo Gura But there are many people who are saying that they are happy, truly happy and they think they are going to die, they are not enlightened.

[Megan Alecia]

Look at your own life. Can you be happy right now? Is it truly possible for you? 

[Moksha]

Happiness, based on attachments, is always temporary. The question is not, "Am I happy?" but "Can I sustain this happiness?". Humans chase happiness, and sometimes find it for a time, but inevitably they lose it, because they don't realize that the chasing is the curse. Relative reality is unavoidably transient.

The only enduring happiness is found through unconditional Love, which is God, which is You.

[actualizing25]

@Megan Alecia Its quite difficult. Suffering is always there.

[Megan Alecia]

@actualizing25 One step at a time. 

[Natasha]

29 minutes ago, actualizing25 said:

@Leo Gura But there are many people who are saying that they are happy, truly happy and they think they are going to die, they are not enlightened.

More like dopamine kind of happy. That's not true happiness, that's a high followed by a low in a cycle. They feel 'happy' during a high and sad/confused/melancholic/bored during a low. Usually people would let you see only their happy front, esp on social media. Besides, when you're excited/dopamine happy, you're not peaceful. True happiness is based on peace.

 

[SpiritualAwakening]

37 minutes ago, actualizing25 said:

@Leo Gura But there are many people who are saying that they are happy, truly happy and they think they are going to die, they are not enlightened.

This is joy and it never lasts.

[Haumea2018]

It depends on what one means by "happy."

I don't use the word "happy" when referring to enlightenment because of its connotation of positive emotions.

Enlightenment = peace and freedom that removes the need to be in any particular emotional state.

The desire to experience positive emotions is due to nonacceptance of the Now; you don't like the state you're in so you want to be in a "happy" state in the future.  

This is what a lot of seekers are seeking because they've never experienced true peace and freedom; they want permanent "happiness" -- that's their only reference point as far as a desirable state.

Enlightenment is the experience of the unconditional surrender to the present, which removes the need to be in some other, future ideal state that the mind has conjured up.

So the problem isn't THE STATE YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW, IT'S THE NONACCEPTANCE OF THE STATE YOU'RE IN RIGHT NOW.

Edited February 17, 2021 by Haumea2018