Snader

Lookin for Tips on Heavy Metal Detox

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Hello, my fellow actualizers!

This post is about looking for tips and advises on removing heavy metals from one's system.

 

LITTLE BACKGROUND OF MY CONDITION

I've been suffering from some weird skin symptoms for about 6 moths now. I would describe the symptoms as pinch, burning, itch and tingle that arise when my heart rate rises and I start sweating.

I have ways to deal with this so I can live normal life, but sometimes the symptoms hit really spontaneously and surprisingly hard and they also tend to keep me awake some nights, so this is really an issue I would rather not have.

I've seen few different doctors, talked to people and tried every single -- even really far fetched -- change in my life that I think could in any way be behind this. I've had my blood tested many times on several tests with nothing to show for. I've tried pretty much every antihistamine they sell in pharmacies, in case it's an allergic reaction. I've done lots of self-experimentation, but haven't been able to find any triggers. I'm also really calm and centered at this time, so I know that stress is not triggering it either. I'm in overall really healthy person with really healthy diet and life style with no other diseases, allergies or anything.

I had the same symptoms 5 years ago lasting about 5 moths until they miraculously disappeared like a fart in the wind. I haven't been able to come up with a link between then and now, UNTIL YESTERDAY!

I realized that in both cases I had taken a vaccine few moth prior to the start of the symptoms. Those two vaccines are the only ones I have taken in about 12 years, so this link seems tangible, considered that there is a high chance those vaccines have had heavy metals in them and knowing that heavy metals are a common source of autoimmune diseases.

 

TO THE POINT

So, now I'm interested in cleaning my body from heavy metals. I'm looking for advises on how to do it properly and most effectively. I have googled around and found different information on heavy metals, but haven't really found any protocols with strict methods and procedures, only some single plants and other natural products that are recommended to be consumed consistently to remove heavy metals from different areas of the body. This heavy metal detox thing seems to still be in the more like a ''new age'' category even in such a welfare state I live in, so there is not much tangible information on the surface.

So if you have experience or have more knowledge on heavy metal detox, I'm REALLY gladly hearing from them. Every product suggestion or any strategy on how to get that shit out of you is warmly welcome. I'm really flexible and open to try any promising and solid methods. I'm also not strict with money when it comes to my health.

Also, if you happened to want to know more about my condition for ANY reason, feel free to ask me anything.

Thanks for reading!

 

 

 

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@Snader have you ruled out things such as basic deficiencies (vitamin A, E, D,, zinc, magnesium, folate) essential fatty acid deficiency, hypothyroidism, gut problems, stress etc? 

Also, I'm curious has that thing on your skin got a formal diagnosis of some sort? What tests have your doctors run so far? 

May be down to heavy metals but may not. More often heavy metal toxicity will be apparent from changes in cognitive health (bad focus, worsening memory, a gradual increase in brain fog) as well as liver problems (being hyper sensitive to smells, having problems with things like coffee, alcohol and medication) or elimination problems with kidneys (e.g. being puffy, retaining water and feeling like water is building up inside) 


“If you find yourself acting to impress others, or avoiding action out of fear of what they might think, you have left the path.” ― Epictetus

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@Michael569 Thanks for your curiosity.

16 hours ago, Michael569 said:

have you ruled out things such as basic deficiencies (vitamin A, E, D,, zinc, magnesium, folate) essential fatty acid deficiency, hypothyroidism, gut problems, stress etc?

All vitamins and minerals are all check. Also my thyroid is working normally. My gut works fine and I don't feel stressed. I've been contemplating the stress factor, whether I'm conscious of it or not, but I thought it would probably show also in some other factors of my life if I were stressed, but it doesn't.

 

16 hours ago, Michael569 said:

Also, I'm curious has that thing on your skin got a formal diagnosis of some sort?

They say it resembles chronic urticaria as this behaves much like it, but they are still uncertain because the visual symptoms on my skin doesn't quite match with the ordinary urticaria symptoms.

 

16 hours ago, Michael569 said:

What tests have your doctors run so far?

They have done some basic local observing on my skin. The skin still looks normal and healthy when the reaction is not active.

They have mostly just run blood tests to test things such as: Complete blood count, renal function, anemia, bleeding disorders, leukocytes (for infections), different diagnostics of chronic diseases, thyroid hormones, hemoglobin, blood sugar, red blood cell count, cell size and distribution, platelets, liver enzymes, kidney (with creatine count and GFR), diagnostics of bile duct and liver diseases and white blood cell groups such as eosinophils, neutrophils, lymphocytes and monocytes. They all look normal.

Now I got a prescription for cortisone, which I think I'll check out.

Next they think they will do some allergy tests, which I'm pretty sure would come out negative anyway.

For a chronic and wildly behaving urticaria a common treatment is also UVB- and SUP-light therapy, which I really wouldn't want to do.

 

17 hours ago, Michael569 said:

May be down to heavy metals but may not.

Yeah... honestly, I doubt it is, because I've been living with relatively low heavy metal exposure for few years now without any notable symptoms and I'm also not even sure yet if those vaccines I took have contained heavy metals. Could be a needle in a haystack but that's pretty much the only link I've got, so can't let that stone unturned.

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3 hours ago, Snader said:

They say it resembles chronic urticaria as this behaves much like it,

I wonder if this could be driven by either an allergic or an intolerance reaction to something. I was working with someone who had asthma, allergies and a skin condition. He said whenever his allergies flared up, his asthma flared up and his skin reaction got the worst. He would get huge red spots all over his back. 

Just wondering, have you seen any potential connection to anything that this could be immunological? Do you get any other allergic symptoms? 

How did you react antihistamines? did they make any difference ? 


“If you find yourself acting to impress others, or avoiding action out of fear of what they might think, you have left the path.” ― Epictetus

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11 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

I wonder if this could be driven by either an allergic or an intolerance reaction to something.

That's what all the doctors assume too, but I really feel I've mapped out every possible thing that could cause allergic reactions.

 

20 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

Just wondering, have you seen any potential connection to anything that this could be immunological?

Idk it first felt like I'm allergic to my own sweat, but I've started to notice it's more like blood circulatory thing. Doctors disagree with that claim, they still think it's most likely a skin thing. The doctors I've had have seemed a bit ignorant though.

How I manage with this is that I do physical exercise almost daily. Because let's say when I start running, at about 3-5 minute mark I start having the reaction and it lasts for about 5 minutes -- It's really rough, but the physical strain takes my attention away from the pain. After that reaction caused by hard physical strain, I become kinda resistant to that reaction to happen again for the rest of the day. If I don't do that ''overload'' process daily, the symptoms annoy me throughout the day mildly from time to time every time I get even a bit heated or start laughing or whatever that could raise my heart rate. And if I happened to do something ''more physical'' without having done the overload process day before, the overload reaction might occur.

It kinda feels like the blood has difficulties flowing through capillaries or other small conducting parts of the circulation and it causes the pain, until the blood is forced through by increased blood pressure.

I could be wrong though.

I have pictures of the skin under the overload reaction. I can PM you those in case you're interested.

 

48 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

Do you get any other allergic symptoms?

Nope, none.

 

48 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

How did you react antihistamines? did they make any difference ?

They haven't really been helpful. At first with bigger doses it felt like they helped a bit, but now even with really high doses they don't seem to have any effect. So can't really say with certainty, but I don't think they really do anything.

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1 hour ago, Snader said:

I have pictures of the skin under the overload reaction. I can PM you those in case you're interested.

yeah feel free, I'm not a dermatologist or anything like that but maybe it will be similar to that what I've seen before. 

1 hour ago, Snader said:

They haven't really been helpful. At first with bigger doses it felt like they helped a bit, but now even with really high doses they don't seem to have any effect. So can't really say with certainty, but I don't think they really do anything.

Could be a combination of things and may be other than just the histamine per se. When I was suffering from my allergies, the histamine release was just the symptom but the real cause was an imbalance in my adaptive immune system which I managed to recalibrate with a blend of medicinal mushrooms and high-fibre diet with some echinacea. But to this day, I think it was the mushrooms that made the most difference. 

Maybe in your case the vaccines have also tipped your immune system to one side (this is a bit too complex to explain but I can try if you want to do some research) and because of that these reactions have started to come up. I think, as a part of the experiment, you could try experimenting with a short blend of medicinal mushrooms. Reishi has the best evidence for antiallergenic effects as far as I know and I think they made a difference for me as well. Either that or a mix with others such as Maitake, Lion's Mane etc. Lot of research is showing that mushrooms are like Immuno calibrators and sometimes can rebalance and overactive immune system that was triggered by something (maybe an excessive reaction to vaccination) 

Just theories form my side, but could be worth your time :) Feel free to DM me if you'd like to discuss this further. 

Other than that the topic of heavy metal detox may be worth exploring for sure if nothing else helps. That topic has been discussed here heavily. 


“If you find yourself acting to impress others, or avoiding action out of fear of what they might think, you have left the path.” ― Epictetus

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@Michael569 I will do some more research and self-experimentation and keep meta-viewing my life and maybe I'll find something I've dismissed so far. Meanwhile, I will definitely add some super healthy medicinal mushrooms into my diet :) 

I'm more interested in fixing the core issue rather than just suppressing the symptoms.

Thank you for the tips and good points!

 

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