Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mason Riggle said: Is Sam Harris really a Materialist, or is 'Sam Harris, materialist' being imagined by you, God. Could he 'be' any other way than how you, God, imagine him to be? Does this comment occur, materially, anywhere other than 'within awareness'? If 'imaginary reality' is indistinguishable from 'real reality', does it matter which is happening? Both. No. No. Reality is imaginary & really happening. Being illusory doesn’t imply it not being real, it just means that reality is not what it appears to be, hence the term “non duality”. It doesn’t matter which is happening, because there ain’t two to begin with. Your questions are seeking two, yet there is only one, only you, only I, only God, Namaste ??. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) @Mannyb reality IS what it appears to be. Edited February 6, 2021 by Mason Riggle "I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Mason Riggle said: @Mannyb reality IS what it appears to be. If by that you mean made of separate objects appearing to a subject, which is what it appears to be to all of us, then no. If you mean made of appearances (sensations, thoughts, perceptions within awareness), then yes ?. Namaste ?? Edited February 6, 2021 by Mannyb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 @Mannyb yes, no.. doesn't matter. "I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 Nothing’s within awareness. MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Mason Riggle said: @Mannyb yes, no.. doesn't matter. Care to explain? Because it would seem you have appropriated the non dual understanding as a belief. A quite common trap. Furthermore, why do you ask if just to reply as if you already know the answer? Edited February 6, 2021 by Mannyb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 @Nahm the map is not the territory. The map 'within awareness' is just a map, and will never accurately describe 'the territory'. The limits of language. "I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Nahm said: Nothing’s within awareness. Indeed, ultimately it is it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Nahm said: @lmfao It’s a bit bizarre to see that everything he’s said though out his career has been through the lens of materialism. Not that there’s anything wrong with it, but it’s rather revealing. Money, notoriety, prestige perhaps, yet never for the message, never in truth. Weird. Yeah I agree it definitely is a bit weird. He's been in monasteries and taken psychedelics. Funnily enough if it wasn't for Sam Harris I wouldn't have ever discovered meditation, and then discovered this world of non-duality. I have the temptation to over-read into Sam Harris' psychology, but there's no need. I think he simply is just that dense and committed to materialism. He's a funny idiosyncratic fellow for sure though Edited February 6, 2021 by lmfao Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Mason Riggle said: @Nahm the map is not the territory. The map 'within awareness' is just a map, and will never accurately describe 'the territory'. The limits of language. Yes! Nothing’s within awareness. MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Nahm said: Yes! Nothing’s within awareness. @Nahm And awareness is nothing. Even though words are just pointers and can't convey Truth, how would you describe this? Everything IS Awareness, rather than 'within' Awareness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 @Chris365 reality is 'non dual' but can only be 'described' through 'duality'. The map will never accurately describe the territory. It's always now. "I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 @Chris365 Not two. MEDITATIONS TOOLS ActualityOfBeing.com GUIDANCE SESSIONS NONDUALITY LOA My Youtube Channel THE TRUE NATURE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mason Riggle said: @Chris365 reality is 'non dual' but can only be 'described' through 'duality'. The map will never accurately describe the territory. It's always now. And here. Infinity and eternity, appearing as space and time. Body / World and Mind. Sense perceptions and thoughts. Edited February 6, 2021 by Mannyb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Chris365 said: @Nahm And awareness is nothing. Even though words are just pointers and can't convey Truth, how would you describe this? Everything IS Awareness, rather than 'within' Awareness? There is no thing, only being aware of being aware. Edited February 6, 2021 by Mannyb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 5 hours ago, mandyjw said: I was just being a pain in the ass. This forum has enough trouble makers. We most certainly don’t need more. "Not believing your own thoughts, you’re free from the primal desire: the thought that reality should be different than it is. You realise the wordless, the unthinkable. You understand that any mystery is only what you yourself have created. In fact, there’s no mystery. Everything is as clear as day. It’s simple, because there really isn’t anything. There’s only the story appearing now. And not even that.” — Byron Katie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 @How to be wise Sometimes the people who challenge and help me grow the most are also the biggest pains in the asses. My Youtube Channel- Light on Earth “We dance round in a ring and suppose, but the Secret sits in the middle and knows.”― Robert Frost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, mandyjw said: @How to be wise Sometimes the people who challenge and help me grow the most are also the biggest pains in the asses. Yes, getting triggered is God’s grace! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, How to be wise said: This forum has enough trouble makers. We most certainly don’t need more. I get annoyed by some things and users on this forum. And if you feel that way (or however you want to frame it), I think you should go about another way. Sometimes I'm scrolling and I see people or types of posts I dislike so I understand where you're coming from. Maybe you could fully write your thoughts about certain things and users on this forum? iirc you leave scattered one liners criticising people for being jokey but that's about it. Edited February 6, 2021 by lmfao Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted February 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Mannyb said: Care to explain? Because it would seem you have appropriated the non dual understanding as a belief. A quite common trap. Furthermore, why do you ask if just to reply as if you already know the answer? I ask rhetorically. Why am I here talking to myself? I suppose because that's exactly what I/God wants to be doing. "I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
