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Day game vs night game: when are women more receptive

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

There was no causal connection between the two forums. My audience is not the RSD audience nor the hardcore pickup audience.

People into personal development just naturally want to talk about how to evolve their dating, relationships, and sex. And a lot of guys just struggling to get laid these days.

The only reason I talk about pickup is because I personally have a deep insider's look into this fascinating and much-misunderstood field, and I feel that I can call out it's unethical and toxic aspects in ways which few people in the community are willing to do because they are too busy maximizing their sex life.

The pickup community is a very mixed bag, full of very sketchy people. So be careful.

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1 hour ago, mememe said:

if it wasn’t so toxic there would be a lot more females writing here

I mean, there are more male internet users, more male users on the forum, and it's usually men who struggle with dating more than women. I would say those are the main reasons that the dating section is mainly male posts

1 hour ago, mememe said:

you never once banned someone for sexist mysogynic behavior

Can you show an example of someone not being banned after being sexist and misogynistic? I'm fairly active in this section and I can't really think of many, maybe 1 or 2. But I do know that examples of it are not going to be as apparent to me as they would be to you, so I know I could easily have missed them

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23 minutes ago, something_else said:

Can you show an example of someone not being banned after being sexist and misogynistic? I'm fairly active in this section and I can't really think of many, maybe 1 or 2. But I do know that examples of it are not going to be as apparent to me as they would be to you, so I know I could easily have missed them

show me one who was! you forget how subtle and constant sexism is, sometimes just is a background tune, like a tinitus you already got accustomed to.

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1 hour ago, mememe said:

show me one who was!

Well at least show me someone who you think deserved a ban but wasn't banned, if it's a big issue there should be plenty of examples

1 hour ago, mememe said:

you forget how subtle and constant sexism is, sometimes just is a background tune, like a tinitus you already got accustomed to.

I know. But unfortunately you can't ban people for that

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@something_else  if you can’t see it for yourself i guess i can’t help you, won‘t do that work for you. its a pointless question starting to prove sth obvious. 

while you would first need to prove anyone ever being banned for sexism in this forum.

if we are talking about toxic behavior being banned, it’s also just a partial truth. there is still plenty, most of it regarding gender biases (while lgbtq is out of frame in sense of acceptance, the absurdity about this talk is for most cis males: you cant ever get out of your birth gender, not even in thought, and there are two: one is superior to the other one, best we make this an undeniable truth) exclamationmark.

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10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

They got huge backlash from activists which basically got them canceled for putting out content which was toxic masculinity. Julien's juvenile antics were the straw that broke the camel's back. If RSD did not self-censor and take down their own old videos, all their social media accounts would have been banned. Their payment processors were also starting to cancel them. So Owen made some tough decisions to self-censor and sanitize the entire brand. The old super-sexist RSD content could not survive in a post-Me-Too world.

I have mixed feelings about this. From one side i do like Me too movement for pointing out abuses that come when men try to leverage their positions of power at the expense of young women. However shutting down totally RSD is a bit too much in my opinion. I have seen a lot of those videos that RSD deleted in the file someone sent here and honestly they were REALLY OKAY. Like, stuff you too would say, motivaiton, explanation of female nature, basic game concepts etc. Nothing really sexist or mysogonistic. 

The biggest issue i have with RSD being closed and PUA demonized is that these haters never give a realistic solution. Like what do Mee too activitist suggest to guys that suck with girls. "Just be yourself"? 

I honestly see no reason why some specific old rsd videos had to be deleted when they basically said what you did in your "how to get laid series".

What i enjoyed about those videos and your videos Leo is not just the pick up techniques and stuff, but the deep explanation of how attraction works. This knowledege is realyl important and can be used in ANY dating scenario. I have done dating from social circle and still applied the principles i learned from these videos and they worked really well. It is not just how to do an approach or how to close but most importantly how to attract a girl and what girls are attracted to.

This knowledge should really be mainstream because a lot of people do not really know it due to the Hollywood brainwashing and females giving horrible dating advice when asked.

Focusing on humour and playfulness instead of being deep and logical was maybe the biggest thing that helped my dating life and i would have never thought of it if it wasnt for your videos. Nobody ever mentions it. One example :) 

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13 hours ago, mememe said:

you never once banned someone for sexist mysogynic behavior

Actually I have.

You just have to appreciate that your standards for sexism and mysogyny are subjective and relative, so they will not be the same as mine.


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@Leo Gura numbers? and proof.

regarding the standards you might be snuggling more with jordan peterson. (i mean metaphorically)

when do you think generally males are more receptive? at night or during the day?

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1 hour ago, mememe said:

@Leo Gura numbers? and proof.

I have nothing to prove to you.


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@Leo Gura If you're not great at socialising full stop aka hard case. Daygame is gonna be a killer to start with in my opinion.

I started with nightgame with a group of about 6 or 7 guys who'd go and out, and it was fun af. We'd be in it togetehr, and there'd be a real lot of comradery with it. Some great memories from that time.

However, i got into daygame last year and I was a lot more on it in terms of plnning my progression. Liek i learnt a lot about planning how to set goals and complete them in regards to approaching, and was just a lot better versed on things. However, it was toughhhh because you're really going against social norms there, and you can waste time standing around.

I had a couple wings that i really got on with that made it pretty fun too. I had a point where i was really starting to see results and could see how i was going to really jump up a level.

But i had to deal with another part of my life - more foundational, so had to leave pick up for a while.

I'm 22, and had some funny fucking dates from daygame. Like this one date with a 33 year old russian girl was funny af. I kept telling her in a russian accent, 'i know you love me'. I love trolling, so my humor is just like that. Sometimes i forget im doing gae at all. its just fucking fun ?.

What daygame really helped me with tho is realising most people are kinda boring, and live pretty ordinary, normal lives. Like girls who i thought would be really bitchy or intimidatingly charismatic were just other people trying to get by.

I used to think everyone else was living these amazing, complex lives, but nah not really.

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Also, people dont talk about it too much, but honestly imo the best way to get good at game is to know how to goal set well, and learn. 


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Daygame is only worthwhile in certain locations. And even then, the volume tends to be too low. You really need the perfect city for that. But if you got that great location, then it's awesome.


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@Leo Gura

59 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

great location

any examples of a great location?

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@Yali I've always thought London and New York are the most renowned.


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@mememe lol. Dudes are DTF 24/7 365 days a year from all ethnicities all ages from 14-105


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9 hours ago, Ulax said:

started with nightgame with a group of about 6 or 7 guys who'd go and out, and it was fun af. We'd be in it togetehr, and there'd be a real lot of comradery with it. Some great memories from that time.

Biggest issue with nightgame for me is that i just do not have friends that enjoy clubbing. Going alone there sucks. If you got 5 friends that wanna do it then its great but not everyone does.

I even joined the Game telegram group in my city and everyone there wants to do daygame.

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8 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Daygame is only worthwhile in certain locations. And even then, the volume tends to be too low. You really need the perfect city for that. But if you got that great location, then it's awesome.

Every time i go out to do my stuff i always see at least 4-5 girls worth approaching. I do not think it is as bad as you make it really. And this is avoiding malls and busy streets, if i go to those it will probably be like 15-20 girls within 2 hours or so.

Most of them arent 9s and 10s ofc but still quite decent.

And no i do not live in an ideal daygame city like London or LA

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There are some great cities in eastern europe for daygame, like moscow, riga or budapest. Which is good, because it's cheap to live there as well. Maybe moscow is not super cheap... Also the city i'm from, munich, is great for doing daygame.

Also the girls in eastern europe tend to be really nice and humble, even thou they look like supermodels. Which is great. I can imagine that in LA or Las Vegas you meet alot of entiteled b*tches, too.

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7 hours ago, mmKay said:

@mememe lol. Dudes are DTF 24/7 365 days a year from all ethnicities all ages from 14-105

not so sure if dudes from 100 onwards are still very much into data though.

it‘s probably also not only about the physical age but also connected to other aspects of development if it comes across below 14 or older than 100.

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17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Daygame is only worthwhile in certain locations. And even then, the volume tends to be too low. You really need the perfect city for that. But if you got that great location, then it's awesome.

How much risk is there in being noticed as a local creeper when doing daygame compared to when you are do nightgame?

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@Hardkill If you're socially uncalibrated there's more of a risk when it comes to daygame.

Daygame just be more normal. You're already unique in her eyes because you approach her in the day.


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