American Fascism

[Leo Gura]

Good article:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2021/1/29/22250294/trump-american-fascism-jason-stanley

[Preety_India]

 

 

A disturbing comment under the video catches attention. 

 

 

He focuses on the Modi regime in India and Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil. He compares it to the Fascism of Trump. Agree. 

Didn't know Bolsonaro attended Republic Day Celebrations in my country. Two to tango I guess. 

My verdict is this 

Trump = Putin = Modi = Bolsonaro 

Excellent video. 

 

 

Edited January 30, 2021 by Preety_India

[Preety_India]

19 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Vox is a really good publication that I do frequent, but often it comes off to me as American political drama than informative reporting.

Kinda propaganda you mean? 

[Vrubel]

3 hours ago, Preety_India said:

My verdict is this 

Trump = Putin = Modi = Bolsonaro 

Mine verdict is this:

Trump = incompetent egomaniac

Bolsonaro = incompetent egomaniac

Putin = competent gangster 

Modi = competent conservative

[Preety_India]

@Vrubel have you read about Modi? 

 

[Vrubel]

Not extensively no, but I am somewhat familiar. He seems kinda respectable and competent especially when you compare him to those other leaders in that row. 

[Preety_India]

I think fascism comes in different forms, shades and layers. 

As a result it's hard to compare. 

 

[Vrubel]

Modi is definitely not a fascist. 

[How to be wise]

@Preety_India

Modi hates Muslims, doesn’t he.

[Leo Gura]

This is where Spiral Dynamics comes in very handy to sort things out.

[Yali]

7 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

I'm still perplexed

@Husseinisdoingfine

same

[Preety_India]

Can anyone show me where Don Beck is seen supporting Republicans in 2020? 

 

[Yali]

@Preety_India

 

[Forestluv]

17 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

I'm still perplexed, why would Don Beck endorse Republicans in 2020?

Boomers gonna Boom

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Forestluv said:

Boomers gonna Boom

Boom! Headshot!

[Preety_India]

Don Beck's ignorance is easily understandable. It's like the old sages who dole out wisdom but are still Trump supporters because of their old school logic, they're still stuck in an older paradigm or generational thinking that they're unable to evolve out of. 

They cannot accept the new generation's outlook on things. 

For example you can have a wonderful and brilliant scientist who has proposed many useful theories yet he is astonishingly narrow minded and has a problem with gay people. 

I see Don Beck the same way. A man who is capable of intellectual accomplishment yet unable to accept that America has to change. He is fixated on America losing tradition, in his eyes he cannot take the crumbling of old structure. 

So he believes Republicans are a last vestige of hope to preserving American tradition. 

It's silly.. 

[Leo Gura]

If Beck is stage Blue, then SD tells you exactly why he would support Trump.

There is even a Yellow reason. If Beck is Yellow, he might feel that Trump is needed to shore up the Blue/Orange part of the Spiral.

But the problem is that Trump is Red, not Orange. Beck seems to have mistaken Trump for Orange. This a very dangerous miscalculation.

[Preety_India]

We can have  stage Blue Fascism.  stage Red Fascism. 

And  stage Green fascism as well. 

Fascism can simply travel through the Spiral although it's most toxic incarnation can be seen at stage Red and Stage Blue. 

 

Edited January 30, 2021 by Preety_India

[soos_mite_ah]

@Preety_IndiaWhat would be stage green fascism? Stage green appears very anti fascist. 

[Preety_India]

@soos_mite_ah  imposing stage Green ideals in a toxic manner. 

Example, a group of vegans or feminists calling for ban or enforcements over little things to the point they become controlling, stomp freedom of speech, liberties and basic rights to get their way.