Adamq8

Real death

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I don't believe in real deaths, i actually find those oxymoronic. 

I believe death is unreal, or rather absurd. But only absurd as far as phenomena/experience goes. Which i anyway find myself contingent upon, so therefore death is an absurdity.

To think about it is an absurd act, as to think about it is nothing like it, and at the same time the thought about it is (presumably) its only essence.

Which may even give rise to its only existence, which again is absurd. Seeing that it then exist as the opposite of what it "were to be".


how much can you bend your mind? and how much do you have to do it to see straight?

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10 hours ago, Adamq8 said:

So nothing is aware and it can not die?

Verbally that's about it. "Everything is nothing, and there will never not be nothing" are words you could use

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On the other hand. Things like souls and past lives are conjecture imo 

Edited by lmfao

Hark ye yet again — the little lower layer. All visible objects, man, are but as pasteboard masks. But in each event — in the living act, the undoubted deed — there, some unknown but still reasoning thing puts forth the mouldings of its features from behind the unreasoning mask. If man will strike, strike through the mask! How can the prisoner reach outside except by thrusting through the wall? To me, the white whale is that wall, shoved near to me. Sometimes I think there's naught beyond. But 'tis enough.

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46 minutes ago, Moksha said:

The truth is, we don't really know what happens when a particular form dies. There are hints, such as near death experiences, astral projection, and paranormal communication, but we don't know. All we can really know is the direct realization of ourselves as ultimate Consciousness. How Consciousness bundles itself into infinite manifestations, telling its stories, is a mystery.

My sense is that there are other planes of relative reality, and that a particular form can transition between these planes, with different degrees of solidity, but still intact as a separate entity.

I'm currently reading Being Ram Dass, and he deeply believed in the soul journeying across lives, with the ultimate destination of reunion with the Source that manifested it. When my mind is silent, and I am centered in this moment, I recognize myself as the Atman, one of infinite expressions of the ultimate God. Whether I will continue as a soul beyond this form, into another form, until I am reabsorbed into unity, I cannot say, but it feels possible.

Ultimately, there is only One; however, I feel that relative reality remains worthy of honor, and is also divine.

Beatiful words!

Yeah we can realize that we are pure conciousness and reality is truly infinite, every possibility is happening,  so it is possible that our soul travels on or you become full GOD, and how do the infinite potential collapse? Thanks to conciousness which actualizes it.

So I do feel Leo is truly right when he says reality is infinite imagination, and whatever you imagine will happen after death is what will happen.

Relative reality is absolutly divine in my book too.

Limitless. 

Even quantum field theory postulate that every god damn possibility is playing out right now.

 


Let thy speech be better then silence, or be silent.

- Pseudo-dionysius 

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@Adamq8 ? We are such a good storyteller that we sometimes get caught up in the story itself, as if we were the characters that we create. In a way we are, because the characters came from us. There is meaning in both telling and in being told the story :)

 


Just because God loves you doesn't mean it is going to shape the cosmos to suit you. God loves you so much that it will shape you to suit the cosmos.

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Disappearing forever is such a dramatic word for the mind. Time doesn't exist, if that's disappearing forever, it's just mind concept, for forever to exist there must be relative - time - which is not real, then this disappearence forever from particular perspective might be one second until it's not. Every moment is forever.

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2 hours ago, wesyasz said:

Disappearing forever is such a dramatic word for the mind.

yes but what disappears? let's think about what there is. your body, very dear and useful, we know that it will disappear. Your memories. a good blow to the head and goodbye. your identity, ego. We are trying 7x24 to transcend it, forget it. what's left the pure being, without identity. what you see when you look into the eyes of a bird, a baby. the existence. that is common to everything, it is in the sky, in everything you see. that seems to be permanent, eternal, outside of time . you are just one more manifestation among many, infinite? of that being. Whether you are, or not, is irrelevant. We're nothing! we must completely detach ourselves from ourselves. just thinking: what will happen to me after death, is attachment. nothing is going to happen to you because you are nothing. you are the bird, the baby, the sky, and that's like being nothing. or everything, it doesn't matter to us. we must give our existence and non-existence generously. nothing could be keep. I'm realizing that this is the freedom. 

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